Ezekiel 23 And Its Disgusting Language以西结书23和语言及其恶心
“Does the “是否 Bible 圣经 use language not fitting for God?” 使用恰当的语言不是上帝？“
This was the question that a missionary rhetorically这是修辞问题，一个传教士 posed构成 to his readers in an amusing but vain attempt to “defend” the inappropriate and unnatural language of Ezekiel 23.在一个有趣的，但妄图以“守”以西结23个不恰当的和不自然的语言，他的读者。 The funny thing that this author have noticed about his whole “defense” (and which also prompted this author to write this short commentary) is that even though he openly accuse Muslims of being “ignorant” about the matter, he reduced the whole passage of Ezekiel 23 to有趣的是笔者已经注意到他的整个“防御”（而且也促使笔者写这篇短评）是，尽管他公开指责“无知”关于此事的穆斯林，他减少了整个通道的以西结书23 a link连结 and a short summary.和一个简短的摘要。 Is the missionary acting “prudish” in trying to dismiss the whole issue away so casually?是传教士行事“假正经”试图解雇了整个问题如此随便？ It certainly seems so to this author.这当然显得那么这位作者。
Ezekiel 23 And Its Problems 以西结书23和存在的问题
We wish to settle the matter once and for all by publishing in full the scans from the whole chapter of Ezekiel 23 so as readers may understand the Muslim objection to this passage.我们希望一劳永逸地解决这一问题所发表的所有全部从整章以西结书23日，以便读者可以了解穆斯林反对这篇文章作者的扫描。 Please be advised that we do not recommend anyone who have not yet reached the age of puberty to read this disgusting and sordid passage .请注意， 我们不建议任何人谁尚未达到青春期年龄读这恶心和肮脏的通道 。
The missionary has also made the accusation that:传教士也取得了指责：
“[i]t is only ignorance of the inspired scriptures that results in such outragious [sic] claim.” “[我] T是唯一的圣经的启发，无知的结果，如outragious索赔[原文如此]。”
On the contrary, we object to the passage not because of its main message, but because of its erotic imagery and inappropriate language .相反，我们反对通过的消息，不是因为它的主体，但由于它的色情图像和不恰当的语言 。 Furthermore, it is described as a historical event and the reader would unconsciously form imagery which is unworthy of being attributed to God Almighty.此外，它被描述为一个历史事件，读者会不自觉地形成意象是被归因于上帝全能的不值得。 We would like to ask the reader: would it be appropriate for a parent to rent a pornographic video and show it to his children below 8 years old, and all the time saying, “Do not commit fornication, it is an evil and a sin to do so”?我们要问读者：会是恰当的父母租色情视频和8岁以下展示给他的孩子，所有的时间说，“不要行奸淫，它是一个邪恶的罪这样做“？ Would anyone in their right mind do such a thing?将在心智正常的人做这样的事？ This is what the missionary ignorantly expects us to believe.这是无知地期望我们的传教士相信。
Missionary Objections And The Response 反对传教士和响应
He also expects us to swallow the idea that the so-called “strong imagery” of the following verse of the Qur'an is as objectionable as the erotic passage of Ezekiel 23:他还预计，我们要吞下的设想，即所谓的“强势形象”的下面的古兰经经文是以西结一样通过23情色反感：
“And do not spy, neither backbite one another; would any of you like to eat the flesh of his brother dead?” (Qur'an, 49:12) “不要谍，彼此都谗，将你的任何喜欢吃的肉，他的弟弟死了吗？”（古兰经，49:12）
The Qur'an in this verse does not give a detailed imagery of how one eats the flesh of another.在这节经文古兰经并没有给一个如何吃了另一个肉体详细的图像。 Rather, it simply analogises backbiting to the act of cannibalism.相反，它只是analogises诽谤到自相残杀的行为。 It does not contain any objectionable language, it does not describe how cannibalism is attempted in detail and most certainly it does not emit erotic imagery not befitting of God Almighty.它不包含任何反感的用语，它不会吃人是如何描述详细尝试并肯定不会释放色情图像不相称的上帝。
In conclusion, the Muslim objection to Ezekiel 23 is a valid one.总之，穆斯林反对以西结书23是正确的。 The Christian missionary should explain to his readers what benefit does the language of Ezekiel 23 offer, apart from inciting its readers to submit to their erotic feelings to commit rape and fornication?基督教传教士应该向他的读者解释什么好处以西23提供的语言，煽动其读者提交他们的性爱感情犯下强奸和奸淫以外？
The Challenge 挑战
It is also amusing that the missionary decided to quote the Prophet (P) and then “conveniently” disparage the late这也是有趣的传教士决定引用先知（P）和然后“方便”贬低晚 Sheikh Ahmed Deedat谢赫艾哈迈德Deedat , the doyen of Muslim responses to Christian missionary attacks, of blasphemy. ，答复老前辈穆斯林基督教传教士的攻击亵渎的。 Our response to his allegation is that we challenge this missionary to educate his own children on the evils of fornication by asking them to act out the event live in a play or school drama, word for word as per recorded in Ezekiel 23 .我们的回答对他的指控是， 这位传教士的挑战，我们要教育每以西结书23字作为自己录制的儿童在邪恶淫乱的，要求他们采取行动了字戏剧活动，现场播放或在学校 。 I would be most happy to lend a hand in writing out such a script and will allow to let his own children to be the principal actors in such a play or school drama for Sunday school.我会很乐意借给一个写出这样的脚本的手，将允许让自己的孩子能在这样一个主日学校或学校戏剧中扮演主要角色。 Certainly, this is not an “outrageous” demand if the missionary himself does not consider this to be “blasphemy” or find any problems with the text of Ezekiel 23.当然，这不是一个“离谱”，如果自己的传教需求并不认为这是“亵渎”或找到与以西结23案文的任何问题。 This challenge is also open to his fellow missionaries这个挑战是他的同胞也开放给传教士
Until the missionary or his cohorts have the courage to meet our above challenge, we as Muslims will continue to criticise the inappropriate and steamy language of Ezekiel 23 and object to its unnatural imagery.直到传教士或他的同伙有敢于迎接我们的上述挑战，我们作为穆斯林将继续批评以西结23不适当和潮湿的语言，反对它的自然图像。 Such a passage is most certainly not “inspired” from God Almighty.这样一段话肯定是不是“灵感”，从全能的上帝。
And only God knows best!只有上帝最清楚！ 
Acknowledgements 致谢
The author would like to take this opportunity to thank Brother笔者想借此机会感谢兄弟 Shah Kirit bin Kakulal Govinji沙阿Kirit斌Kakulal Govinji for his input on the Christian missionary response to the Muslim criticism of Ezekiel 23.他关于基督教传教士应对以西结23穆斯林的批评意见。
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13 Responses for 为响应13 "Ezekiel 23 And Its Disgusting Language" “以西结书23和它的恶心语言”
“Strong language is the sign of profound anger of God and utter corruption and idolatry of Israel at that time.” “强的语言是深刻的愤怒神和完全腐败和当时的以色列偶像崇拜的标志。”
My God dont use that kind of language.我的上帝不要使用该语言。 COME'ON…. COME'ON ...。 Ezekiel 23 is BANNED in South Africa…it is categorised as PORN.以西结书23禁止在南非...它是色情归类。
truth, if before you persist to argue any further, try to reading aloud this document (you consider as “Word of God”) to your:-事实上，如果在你坚持到任何进一步的争论，尝试朗读本文件（你作为“上帝的话”考虑）到： -
1. 1。 Nieces/nephews, sons/daughters侄女/侄子，儿子/女儿
2. 2。 Girlfriend's younger sister/brother..女友的妹妹/兄弟..
3. 3。 better still, her parents更好的是，她的父母
4. 4。 Business meetings… to bless the meeting, of course商务会议...保佑这次会议上，当然
5. 5。 Dinner with your Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim friends (whom you are trying to convert)你的晚餐佛教，印度教和穆斯林的朋友（你是谁试图转换）
and, of course, with all of the above attending… ，当然与上述所有参加，...
6. 6。 your Church (please,please,please…. and videotape it, please,please,please)你的教会（请，请，请...。和录像，请，请，请）
“truth”-or whatever you wish to call yrself.. “真理”或任何你想打电话yrself .. choose a humbler name like mine.选择一个像我这样卑微的名字。
If Christians want respect for themselves they have to respect other religion.It doesn't trouble me if Christian don't believe in Peophet Muhammed but it does when they make fun of him.Do Christians think it is an insult to their religion when Muslims write Peace Be Upon Him after Jesus name.There is no need for Christians to trash other religions instead they should make more sense in ther docterines they worship.如果基督徒要为自己的尊重，他们必须尊重其他religion.It不麻烦我，如果基督徒不相信Peophet穆罕默德但它确实使him.Do当他们认为这是基督徒的乐趣就在他们的宗教侮辱穆斯林写愿他安息在耶稣name.There没有基督徒需要其他宗教，而不是垃圾，他们应该更有意义，他们在那里docterines崇拜。
I wonder if God fell in love with these filthy girls knowing not how they would develop and act in future, after all god is all-knowing and all powerful…y couldnt he stop them.我不知道上帝爱上了这些肮脏的女生不知道他们会如何发展和行动的未来，毕竟上帝是全知和全能... Y的想不出他阻止他们。 On the top of it, after what has happened with God, he is complaining like a child what they did to me.在它的顶部，之后发生了什么与神，他像孩子一样抱怨他们对我做什么。 This must be some drama player god.这一定是上帝的一些戏剧表演的球员。 God never does anything like that.上帝从来不喜欢的事情。 y??????? Ÿ ??????? coz He is God.怎么把他是神。
Atleast Muslims will stop backbiting when they imagine of eating his own brother flesh but what about Christians when they read such passages would that stop them from involving in sex. Atleast穆斯林将停止诽谤时，他们想象着自己的哥哥吃的肉但对于基督徒读到这样的段落时，他们将是阻止他们在卷入性。
*Sigh* *叹气*
How about instead of attacking each other we do as brothers due and give logical reasoning for answers?怎么样，而不是互相攻击，我们做兄弟因，并给出答案的逻辑推理？
Yes, Ezekiel 23 may seem very immoral in itself just by describing things in detail, that we may find improper but you have to remember we are reading it in English, not in Greek.是的，5月23日以西结本身似乎非常不道德的事情仅仅通过详细描述，我们可能会发现不正确的，但你必须记住我们正在阅读的英文不是在希腊。 It makes perfect sense that the way it's translated may seem disgusting but it's very possible to a Greek that the way it's explained is fine.它使完美的意义上说，它的翻译方式，可能看起来恶心，但它很可能是希腊的它的解释方式是罚款。 You have to also take into consideration the cultural differences.你也必须考虑到文化差异。 In certain cultures there are certain traditions that may seem very immoral, improper, and disgusting but to them it's harmless.在某些传统文化有一定的可能似乎非常不道德，不当，恶心但他们这是无害的。 You have to remember, we are imperfect beings created by god who were given free will to do what we please.你要记住，我们是上帝创造的完美的人谁给予的自由意志做我们请。 Just because god knows our future, doesn't mean he's the one who has chosen our fate, we are the fate wielders.仅仅因为上帝知道我们的未来，并不意味着他是谁选择了我们的命运之一，我们的命运算是在把弄。
Yes, I am a Christian, a Gentile if you like.是的，我是一个基督徒，一个詹蒂莱如果你喜欢。 I have Muslim friends, and I debate with them in a polite manner as anyone else should.我的穆斯林朋友，我和他们争辩，因为任何人都不应以礼貌的方式。 My friend who is indeed a Muslim would even agree with me on this “historical” document that it's not authentic but is a copy of many copies in which it could be mistranslated.我的朋友谁是一个穆斯林甚至会同意我这个“历史”的文件，它不是真实的，而是一个多份拷贝，它可能是错译。 Point is, whether it is or not, the passage Ezekiel 23 is trying to make has been made.点是，无论是与否，通过以西结23正在努力使已经取得进展。
Also, I'm not properly equipped with enough knowledge to debate with everyone here, I was just trying to explain from a logical point of view the issue.另外，我也没有足够的知识来正确地与大家一起在这里辩论配备，我只是想从一个角度解释这个问题的逻辑点。