Lying in Christianity躺在基督教

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Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi莫哈末Elfie Nieshaem Juferi

To find the Christian missionaries要了解基督教传教士 accusing指责 Muslims of exemplifying lying is totally amusing, to say the least, as the doctrine of taqiyyah is exclusively a Shi'ite doctrine which is held onto by a mere 8% – 10% out of the total 1.3 billion Muslim population around the world, the majority of whom are overwhelmingly Sunni.躺在穆斯林彰显完全有趣,至少可以说,作为taqiyyah学说完全是一个什叶派教义是由1%以内,只有到8 - 10%出总的13亿穆斯林人口在世界各地大多数人绝大多数是逊尼派。 A refutation of the doctrine of taqiyyah from the Sunni perspective is to be noted一个角度驳斥了这一学说taqiyyah从逊尼派是要注意 here这里 .

Moreover there is ample evidence from the此外还有来自充分的证据 hadith 圣训 traditions which invariably negates the missionary claims that Islam permits lying . 传统的总是否定许可证躺在传教士声称伊斯兰教 1 All the missionaries can do to include orthodox Muslims in their allegations is their tendency to quote from The Reliance of the Traveler ( Umdat as-Salik ), an unofficial and sub-standard fiqh manual, specifically geared towards Egyptian society of Sufi persuasion and translated into English by an extremist heterodox Sufi.所有的传教士可以做,包括在他们的正统穆斯林的指控是他们倾向于引述Umdat信赖的旅行者如-萨利克 ),是一个非官方和不合标准的律手册,专门面向埃及社会的苏菲说服和转化英国的一个极端主义异端苏菲。 Sayyid Sabiq's Fiqh as-Sunnah is the authoritative orthodox source covering all four Sunni schools of thought and this work is available赛义德Sabiq的律为,圣行是正统权威的来源包括所有四个逊尼派认为学校工作,这可以用 online在线 .There is no ammunition for the bankrupt missionaries in such orthodox sources, so it is no wonder that they resort to heterodox material. 。没有在这种正统的传教士弹药来源的破产,所以难怪他们采取非正统的材料。

Nevertheless, we have decided to play their game, and would like to ask: “What about lying in不过,我们决定发挥他们的游戏,并希望地问:“怎么样躺在 Christianity 基督教 ?” ?“

The answer: it was Paul , the self-confessed “apostle” from Tarsus, who was the first person to rationalise his actions by holding that there was no link between the period in which Jesus (P) had lived and the period in which he himself now lived.答案:这是保罗 ,承认自己“使徒时期”从大数,谁是第一人,他的行为合理化和通过召开链接之间没有耶稣的期间内(规划),他一直住在他现在住。 Times were changing and conditions that prevailed were such that the ethic of Jesus(P) was out of date and could no longer be applied.时代正在发生变化,条件是这样的,普遍存在的耶稣伦理(规划)已经过时,并可能不再适用。 It was with such a view that Paul took stock of the situation which existed then and taught what the Gentiles seem to require him to believe:它是这样一种意见认为,保罗注意到存在的情况,然后,教什么外邦人似乎需要他相信股票:

“All things are lawful unto me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. ” (1 Corinthians 6:12) “所有的东西都是合法的对我, 但我不会带来任何根据的权力。”(林前6:12)

During the ministry of Jesus(P), Saul (Paul) was a dedicated member of a powerful, exclusive Jewish sect called Pharisees (Acts 26:5).在耶稣部(规划),扫罗(保罗)是一个强大的,所谓的独家犹太法利(徒26:5)节专门的成员。 Their pretensions to sanctity had labelled them as hypocrites.他们自称为神圣了他们称为伪君子。 When these overbearing vain-glorious Jews confronted Jesus(P), he called them:当这些傲慢虚荣,面临着光荣犹太人耶稣(规划),他称他们为:

“You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. “你是你父亲的魔鬼,你和你父亲会做的情欲。 He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.他从起初是杀人的,并没有居留权的真理,因为他心里没有真理。 When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44)因他说谎,他是讲他自己的:因为他是个骗子,而它的父亲。“(约翰福音8:44)

Saul, a zealous persecutor of the devoted disciples of Christ, became the first Christian missionary and an apostle to the Gentiles after converting himself to Christianity by a “vision”, which he claims he had, while on the road to Damascus.扫罗,一个基督信徒热心专门迫害,转换后成为由“远见”,他声称他,自己的第一个基督教传教士和基督徒对外邦人的使徒而在大马士革的道路。 The missionary changed his name from Saul to Paul and became the biggest contributor to the Books of the New Testament.从扫罗的改变传教士保罗和他的名字成为了最大的贡献,以新约圣经的书籍。 From the above verse, Jesus(P) like many of his predecessors condemned lying, deceit and hypocrisy.从以上的诗句,谴责耶稣(P)的许多前任一样,他的谎言,欺骗和伪善。 Lying is condemned several times throughout the Bible, and deceit by its own nature, is sinful and can only lead to hazardous consequences.说谎是谴责整个圣经几次,欺骗其自身的性质,是有罪的,只能导致危险的后果。 What does Peter say in regards to guile彼得说的是什么狡猾的问候 2 2 ?

“For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that speak no guile.” (1 Peter 3:12) “对于他将热爱生活,看看好日子,让他不要他从邪恶的舌头,嘴唇说话没有诡诈的。”(1彼得3:12)

The verse speaks for itself.诗言自明的。 One of the factors that hinder man's success in this world and eternal life in the hereafter, is the use of guile.其中一个因素,阻碍了以后人的成功在这个世界上,永恒的生命,是狡猾的使用。 But on his own admittance, what does Paul say?但在他自己的入场,保罗说什么?

“But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless being crafty, I caught you with guile. ” (2 Corinthians 12:16) “但是无论是这样,我没有包袱你: 不过是狡猾的,我发现狡猾你呀。”(林后12:16)

On his own admission, Paul is saying that he uses deception in his modus operandi . 在他自己承认,保罗说,他用他的作案手法行骗。 In all the new versions of the Bible, the more common term of “deceit” is replaced instead . 在所有的欺骗“的新版本的圣经任期”,更常见的是,而不是取代 This statement is made long after his conversion to Christianity, in the phase when he supposed to be blessed and righteous, and most importantly of all, being guided by Christ.这项声明是在很久后,他改信基督教,在相当他应该是祝福和正义,最重要的是,被基督的引导下。 Paul was not only a rejector of the Mosaic Law and the Jesus Ethic, he also asserted that he was a law unto himself.保罗不仅是镶嵌法和耶稣伦理排异,他还声称,他是你们自己的法律。 Many people, obviously, could not accept this.很多人,显然,不能接受这一点。 Thus Paul responded with:因此,保罗与回应:

“For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto His Glory; why yet I am also judged a sinner? ” (Romans 3:7-8)他说:“如果上帝真神更多的荣誉不胜枚举通过我对他的谎言, 为什么没有我也被判为罪人?”(罗马书3:7-8)

It can be ascertained from this statement that although Paul knew that he was lying, he felt that the means justified the end, but it was not understand how truth would abound through a lie.它可以从这份声明说,虽然保罗知道他在撒谎确定,他认为合理的目的的手段,但它不明白真相将通过一个谎言比比皆是。 According to this reasoning, if the man Jesus was equated with God, then what objections could a follower of Jesus have?根据这一推理,如果该名男子耶稣等同于上帝,那么反对可能是耶稣的追随者呢?

Guile is certainly deception.吉尔当然是欺骗。 Flattery is simply rather shameful.奉承是简单而可耻的。 And they lend themselves nicely to each other.而他们自己很好地借给对方。 But, deception (especially for the sake of proselytizing) was started by Paul and became the raison d'etre of those who laid the foundation of the European church.但是,欺骗传教(尤其是对酒)是由保罗开始,并成为教会存在的这些谁真正目的的欧洲奠定了基础的。 And the missionaries of today seem to have no qualms in utilizing it.和今天的传教士似乎已经在使用它没有任何疑虑。 Deception is the name of the game, and this is obvious when the missionaries start substituting exclusively Muslim phrases such as insha'allah (God willing) for “Lord Jesus willing”, subhana Allah (Praise God) with “Praise Lord Jesus”, “Wa Allahu a'lam” (God knows best) with “Jesus knows best”, ie in欺骗是游戏的名称,这是显而易见的传教士开始时只以insha'allah代穆斯林短语例如主耶稣愿意“(真主保佑)为”subhana安拉 (赞美上帝)与“赞美主耶稣”,“华真主a'lam“(上帝最清楚)与”耶稣最清楚“,即在 their articles他们的文章 which openly berates Islam.其中公开斥责伊斯兰教。 Another attempt at guile is the Christian missionary狡猾的另一个企图是在基督教传教士 activity of “church-planting”活动的“教会种植” in Muslim nations where they openly state their desire to convert Muslims “by hook or by crook”.在穆斯林国家,他们公开声明他们的愿望,就是将通过不择手段穆斯林“”。

Perhaps the missionaries in their “pick-and-choose” religion had suffered from amnesia and forgotten the following:也许,在他们的“挑选和选择”宗教的传教士们受到了失忆症,忘记了以下内容:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalms 32:2) “你们是有福的人不是他是耶和华神算罪孽,并在其精神也没有诡诈的。”(诗篇32:2)

And only God knows best!而且,只有上帝知道最好的!

  1. The Prophet先知 Muhammad穆罕默德 is quoted to have said: “Let he who truly believes in Allah and the Last Day speak good or be silent.” ( Sahih al-Bukhari ).有引述说:“让他相信谁真正日在真主和最后讲好或保持沉默。”( 的词句基地布哈里 )。 Moreover, he has specifically cursed the person who lies to make people laugh, he said: “Woe be on one who speaks and lies in order to make people laugh, woe be on him.” (Abu Dawud).此外,他已明确诅咒的人谁是让大家笑,他说:“祸是谁在说话和谎言之一,为了让人们欢笑,共命运是在他身上。”(艾布达乌德)。 See also the traditions in Abu Dawud (5004)/ Musnad Ahmad and Sahih al-Bukhari (vol. 8, no 118).又见118)的传统,艾布达乌德(5004)/ Musnad艾哈迈德的词句基地布哈里 (第一卷8,没有。 [ [ back ] ]
  2. The Greek word is “dolos”, which means “bait” or “snare”, “deceit is rendered” (WE Vine, Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words , Thomas Nelson Publishers (1997), under the word 'GUILE', p. 515).希腊字是“dolos”,意为“诱饵”或“陷阱”,“欺骗呈现”(我们藤, 藤的说明文词典的旧与新约词 ,托马斯纳尔逊出版(1997年),在这个词'桂乐牌' ,第515页)。 See also Strong's #1388 which defines dolos as “craft, deceit, guile, subtility” (p. 34) [又见强的#1388,它定义为“工艺,欺骗,狡诈,subtility dolos”(第34页)[ back ] ]
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13 Responses for 13日的答复为 "Lying in Christianity" “基督教说谎”

  1. Nice refutation to Thomas brother, that was an enjoyable read of refutations.尼斯反驳托马斯的兄弟,这是一个令人愉快的阅读的反驳。

    As for the article by MENJ, great job on that.至于由MENJ,有很大的工作的文章。 It's all good :-D这一切都很好:三维

  2. Mujaajid says: Mujaajid 说:

    Jesus said ” ” Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law:”- MATTHEW 10:34-35 >耶稣说:“”不想想,我来到地球上的和平派:我不是来送和平,但sword.For我来到设在对他的父亲,母亲对她的女儿,女儿一个人方差在法律上对她的婆婆:“ - 马太福音10:34-35> http://islamplanet.jeeran.com/.....peace.html http://islamplanet.jeeran.com/.....peace.html Is bible the book of mercy and peace ??是圣经的怜悯与和平的书??

    Tomas ( Tomas said on 11 February 2006: )托马斯(托马斯说,2月11日2006年:)

  3. Mujaajid says: Mujaajid 说:

    - ” A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!” – (Jeremiah 48:10) - “关于他是谁一直在流血,他的剑从诅咒!” - (耶48:10)

    -(Deuteronomy:20:13)-(And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword - (申命记:20:13) - (当耶和华你神所交在你手里,你要击打每一个有剑的优势其中男性

    -(Psalms:137:9)-(Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.) - (诗篇:137:9) - (他应是快乐,那夺和dasheth对你的小石头的。)

    - Jesus said : ” And he said unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet; and he that hath none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword.”- LUKE 22:36 - 耶稣说:“他对他们说,但是现在,他说,祂所一个钱包,让他收下,同样一个钱包,他说,祂所没有,让他卖掉他的衣裳,买一把剑。”卢克 - 22:36
    - Jesus said : ” - 耶稣说:“
    But these mine enemies, that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay THEM BEFORE ME.但这些煤矿的敌人,那不是我应该对他们的统治,把那杀他们在我面前。 “- Luke 19:27 “ - 卢克19:27

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World 's_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors(GODS), or Christianity Before Christ was an 1875 book written by 19th century lecturer and sceptic Kersey Graves. 's_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors世界16十字架救世主(神),或基督教在公元前1875年的书是由19世纪的讲师和怀疑论者克西格雷夫斯写的。

    Christinity from Pagans orrgion : Christinity从异教徒orrgion: http://home.earthlink.net/~pgw.....ml#mithras http://home.earthlink.net/〜精制导武器.....毫升#密特拉 PAGANISM :Pagans' Man-Gods (Origin christianity) Q: Where did the dying-reborn God myth start?异教:异教徒'满神(基督教的起源)问:在何处死亡,重生神的神话开始?

    http://www.mystae.com/restrict.....pagan.html http://www.mystae.com/restrict.....pagan.html Egyptian and Pagan Themes in Christian Tradition : – “Be of good cheer, sacred band of Initiates, your God has risen from the dead.埃及和异教的主题在基督教的传统: - “是很好的欢呼,启动神圣的乐队,你的神已经从死里复活。 His pains and sufferings shall be your salvation.” – Words uttered by Mithraic priest他的痛苦和苦难,应你的救恩。“ - 词由密特拉牧师说出

    - -

  4. Mujaajid says: Mujaajid 说:

    -http://www.examinethetruth.com/Who_Is_God/baby_god.htm Christianity's Baby God.网站- http:/ / www.examinethetruth.com / Who_Is_God / baby_god.htm基督教的婴儿神。

    -Christianity's origins in ancient Pagan religion : Christianity also borrowed elements of Jesus' mythology.在古代异教,基督教的起源:基督教也借用耶稣的神话元素。 Sons of God born of a mortal woman, and miracles (including turning water into wine, walking on water, and especially healing the sick) were common elements of pre-Christian Pagan religions.儿子出生的神的一个致命的女人,奇迹(包括水变成酒,水走,特别是医治病人)是前基督教异教宗教的共同要素。 Mithras had 'em.密特拉了他们。 So did Dionysus, Attis, Osiris, and Orpheus.所以没有酒神,阿提斯,奥西里斯和奥菲斯。 And more.等等。

    - Salvation !! - 拯救! ” But those who believe and work righteousness will be admitted to gardens beneath which rivers flow,- to dwell therein for aye with the leave of their Lord. “但是,这些谁相信和工作正义会被送往花园底下河流流量, - 纠缠与他们的主的赞成其中。 Their greeting therein will be: “Peace!” – Quran 14:23其中他们的问候语是:“和平!” - 古兰经14:23

    - - http://www.islamworld.net/neverwas.html http://www.islamworld.net/neverwas.html The God That never Was .这从来就不是神。 – By Ahmed dedaat - 通过艾哈迈德dedaat

    -” Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times “by the sword” to get them to abandon their faith “.– Uri Avnery (jewish Writter) - “每一个诚实的犹太人谁知道他的人民的历史,不能不感到一种深切感谢伊斯兰教,它保护了五十代的犹太人,而基督教世界迫害犹太人,并试图用剑”多次“获取他们放弃他们的信仰“.-乌里阿夫内里(犹太上线)

    - jesus said : ” ” Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law:”- MATTHEW 10:34-35 - 耶稣说:“”不想想,我来到地球上的和平派:我不是来送和平,但sword.For我来到设在对他的父亲,对她的母亲,女儿一个人方差对她的婆婆媳妇:“ - 马太福音10:34-35

    Christianity is Copy of paganism : (Attis ) Man-god of Egypy , was born of the Virgin Nana on December 25th.He was both the Father and the Divine Son.Called “the Good Sheppard,” the “Most High God,” the “Only Begotten Son” and “Savior.”基督教的异教复制:(阿提斯)满神的Egypy,是美属维尔京娜娜出生于12月25th.He既是父亲和神圣Son.Called“好谢泼德,”的“至高上帝”的“独生子”和“救世主”。

    -Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US -(US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT, Oct. 8, 1990).伊斯兰是美国增长最快的宗教 - (美国新闻与世界报道10月8,1990)。 It is growing at a rate of 400% per year in the USA.它正以每年400%的美国利率。

    - - http://thetruereligion.org/mod.....icleid=250 http://thetruereligion.org/mod.....icleid=250 Gary Miller :Former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam加里米勒:前基督教牧师和传教士谁已经接受了伊斯兰教

    -The Church made a sacred day of Sunday … “largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance.” (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, quoted by Seventh-day Adventists to prove that Sunday is pagan) ,教会作出了神圣的一天...星期天“这主要是因为它是太阳的每周节,因为它是一个明确的政策,以接管基督教异教所爱戴的传统节日的人,给他们一个基督徒的意义。 “(在我们的基督教,阿瑟韦盖尔,异教的复临安息日引述证明星期天是异教徒)

    -Paganism Turned to christianianity : first-begotten, androgynous son. -异教阳转christianianity:第一,遗物,雌雄同体的儿子。 His male name is called 'First-Begettress Sophia, Mother of the Universe.'他的男性的名字就叫'第一Begettress索菲亚,宇宙的母亲。' Some call her 'Love.'有的叫她'爱。 Now the first-begotten is called 'Christ.'现在,第一造物主被称为'基督。 — Text from the sophia Jesus christ - 文本从索菲亚耶稣基督

    -“My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.” -Michael H. Hart THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY , NEW YORK, Hart Publishing Company , INC - “我对穆罕默德的选择导致了世界上最有影响力的人的名单,可能突击一些读者,可能会被人质疑,但他在历史上谁是超级同时在宗教和世俗层面的成功唯一的男人。”-迈克尔阁下哈特100:一个在历史上,纽约,哈特出版公司,股份有限公司最有影响力的排名

    - - http://islamtomorrow.com/bible.....nicaea.htm http://islamtomorrow.com/bible.....nicaea.htm How Did 1 God Become 3 ?怎么一神成为3? :Excerpts and Quotes From The Catholic Church History . :折子戏及从天主教教会历史行情。 Arianism Versus the Council of Nicaea – By Brother John Raymond阿里乌教派对战的尼西亚会议 - 由兄弟约翰雷蒙德

    bible says : Kill Nonbelievers : ” They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.圣经说:杀死怀疑论者:“他们订立盟约,寻求耶和华他们列祖的神所有他们的心脏和灵魂,和大家谁也不会寻求耶和华以色列的神,是被治死,无论是小还是大,无论是男人还是女人。 “- (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) “ - (历代志下15:12-13国民银行)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/a.....32,00.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/a.....32,00.html处 THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.罗马天主教教堂中已出版的教材文件,指示信徒认为圣经的某些部分并非事实。

    - - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/a.....34625.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/a.....34625.html A retired priest committed suicide by setting himself on fire in a German monastery in protest at the spread of Islam and the Protestant Church's inability to contain it.一位退休牧师致力于通过设置在自焚,抗议德国寺院在传播伊斯兰教和基督教教会的无力遏制自杀。

  1. [...] See our article on Lying in Christianity. [...]见躺在我们对基督教的文章。 It is the nature of their religion to strongly encourage lying and deception in their beliefs!这是他们的宗教性质,大力鼓励撒谎和欺骗他们的信仰! [back]Cf. [返回]参看。 refer to our exposition on the falsehood of Paul.参阅我们的论述谬误的保罗。 [back]Please refer to our articles which deal with Sam Shamoun and his diatribe on our website. [返回]请参阅我们的文章,与萨姆萨姆和他在我们的网站谩骂处理。 [back] [...] [返回] [...]

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