To find the Christian missionaries accusing Muslims of exemplifying lying is totally amusing, to say the least, as the doctrine of taqiyyah is exclusively a Shi’ite doctrine which is held onto by a mere 8% - 10% out of the total 1.3 billion Muslim population around the world, the majority of whom are overwhelmingly Sunni. A refutation of the doctrine of taqiyyah from the Sunni perspective is to be noted here. Moreover there is ample evidence from the hadith traditions which invariably negates the missionary claims that Islam permits lying.1 All the missionaries can do to include orthodox Muslims in their allegations is their tendency to quote from The Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat as-Salik), an unofficial and sub-standard fiqh manual, specifically geared towards Egyptian society of Sufi persuasion and translated into English by an extremist heterodox Sufi. Sayyid Sabiq’s Fiqh as-Sunnah is the authoritative orthodox source covering all four Sunni schools of thought and this work is available online.There is no ammunition for the bankrupt missionaries in such orthodox sources, so it is no wonder that they resort to heterodox material. Nevertheless, we have decided to play their game, and would like to ask: “What about lying in Christianity?”
The answer: it was Paul, the self-confessed “apostle” from Tarsus, who was the first person to rationalise his actions by holding that there was no link between the period in which Jesus (P) had lived and the period in which he himself now lived. Times were changing and conditions that prevailed were such that the ethic of Jesus(P) was out of date and could no longer be applied. It was with such a view that Paul took stock of the situation which existed then and taught what the Gentiles seem to require him to believe: “All things are lawful unto me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.” (1 Corinthians 6:12) During the ministry of Jesus(P), Saul (Paul) was a dedicated member of a powerful, exclusive Jewish sect called Pharisees (Acts 26:5). Their pretensions to sanctity had labelled them as hypocrites. When these overbearing vain-glorious Jews confronted Jesus(P), he called them: “You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44) Saul, a zealous persecutor of the devoted disciples of Christ, became the first Christian missionary and an apostle to the Gentiles after converting himself to Christianity by a “vision”, which he claims he had, while on the road to Damascus. The missionary changed his name from Saul to Paul and became the biggest contributor to the Books of the New Testament. From the above verse, Jesus(P) like many of his predecessors condemned lying, deceit and hypocrisy. Lying is condemned several times throughout the Bible, and deceit by its own nature, is sinful and can only lead to hazardous consequences. What does Peter say in regards to guile2? “For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that speak no guile.” (1 Peter 3:12) The verse speaks for itself. One of the factors that hinder man’s success in this world and eternal life in the hereafter, is the use of guile. But on his own admittance, what does Paul say? “But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless being crafty, I caught you with guile.” (2 Corinthians 12:16) On his own admission, Paul is saying that he uses deception in his modus operandi. In all the new versions of the Bible, the more common term of “deceit” is replaced instead. This statement is made long after his conversion to Christianity, in the phase when he supposed to be blessed and righteous, and most importantly of all, being guided by Christ. Paul was not only a rejector of the Mosaic Law and the Jesus Ethic, he also asserted that he was a law unto himself. Many people, obviously, could not accept this. Thus Paul responded with: “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto His Glory; why yet I am also judged a sinner?” (Romans 3:7-8) It can be ascertained from this statement that although Paul knew that he was lying, he felt that the means justified the end, but it was not understand how truth would abound through a lie. According to this reasoning, if the man Jesus was equated with God, then what objections could a follower of Jesus have? Guile is certainly deception. Flattery is simply rather shameful. And they lend themselves nicely to each other. But, deception (especially for the sake of proselytizing) was started by Paul and became the raison d’etre of those who laid the foundation of the European church. And the missionaries of today seem to have no qualms in utilizing it. Deception is the name of the game, and this is obvious when the missionaries start substituting exclusively Muslim phrases such as insha’allah (God willing) for “Lord Jesus willing”, subhana Allah (Praise God) with “Praise Lord Jesus”, “Wa Allahu a’lam” (God knows best) with “Jesus knows best”, i.e. in their articles which openly berates Islam. Another attempt at guile is the Christian missionary activity of “church-planting” in Muslim nations where they openly state their desire to convert Muslims “by hook or by crook”. Perhaps the missionaries in their “pick-and-choose” religion had suffered from amnesia and forgotten the following: “Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalms 32:2) And only God knows best!
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Tomas said on 11 February 2006:
dear Mohd, i am a catholic from Iraq. I did not convert, I was born one.I do not believe what you say about Christianity saying that it is the “easy path and therefore you should not chose it”. Christianity may sound easy to a muslim , but it is not. It is not enough for a catholic to believe in Christ in order to go to heaven, you need to practise in prayer, love and the teachings of Jesus Christ, the only son of God. I ask you to please , do not look at america and christian fundumentalists
and think that all christians are like that. Real Christians do not hold hate towards muslims like America does. Christians look at terrorists and know that not all mslims are like that either. I live now in canada and a strong believer in my faith. I hold no hatred to muslims, but have many many reason why i am of my faith. do not think i am biased for being a catholic because my parents are; i have studied all main religions in the world and find Christianity to be the right one.
These are some proves why The gospel of Jesus is true and not that of Mohammed
Jesus is the Son of God
(John 10:36)
Mohammed was a man
(Surah 18:110)
Jesus performed miracles
(Mark 7:37)
Mohammed Did not perform miracles
(Surah 17:59)
Jesus knew what is inside people’s hearts
(Revelation 2:23)
Mohammed did not know what is inside People’s hearts
(Surah 11:31)
Jesus is our advocate with the Father
(1 John 2:1 & 2)
Mohammed is not our advocate with the Father
(Surah 9:80)
Jesus forbade His followers to use the sword
(Matthew 26:52)
Mohammed urged his followers to use the sword
(Surah 8:65)
Jesus taught forgiveness
(Matthew 5:38,39)
Mohammed taught revenge
(Surah 2:194)
Jesus was sinless
(1 Peter: 2:22)
Mohammed was sinful
(Surah 47:19)
Jesus words never change
(Matthew 24:35)
The Quran words changed
(Surah 16:101)
Jesus healed the blind man
(Luke 18:35-43)
Mohammed turned away from the blind man
(Surah 80:1-10)
Jesus called on people to come to Him
(Matthew 11:28-30)
Mohammed was admonished because he sent people away
(Surah 6:52)
Jesus taught monogamy
(Matthew 19:5,6)
Mohammed taught polygamy
(Surah 4:3)
People were free to accept Jesus’ message or reject it
(Luke 10:10,11)
People were forced to accept Mohammed’s message
(Surah 9:29)
there is also the fact that when meccans worshipped many gods before islam came, Mohammeds family worshipped the moon god, a moon god named hubal. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam a
top of every mosque throughout the world. Please believe me when i say i am not making this up.
# The moon god was also referred to as “al-ilah”. This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning “the god”. Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as “al-ilah”.
“al-ilah” was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as “Allah”.
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name “Hubal” but retained the generic “Allah”.
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.
So there , what have written to you is evidence and one of the many many reason why i believe islam is false. But there is a God, one who loves all muslims people, he is the one true God, the father of our savior Jesus Chris,
Jesus is the name of all names, To him every knee will bow and every tounge will confess, he is the light of all light, and that is something every muslim, jew ,hindu and athiest will one day confess (Judgement day). You should turn to him now while you still have a chance to be saved , for he loves you. I would love foryou to comment me back , thank you , Tomas Nona.
islamispeace said on 12 February 2006:
aian jaafar said on 14 February 2006:
brother,
i think you have responded to the claims of our well-intentioned but misled catholic friend here.
let me add an example of the prophet’s mercy. the prophet was driven out of Taif, and the people there even ordered the children to throw stones at the Beloved Prophet. angel gabriel came to the Prophet with the angel of the mountains, saying that had the Beloved prophet wanted to, the angel would have crushed taif between the mountains. But the Beloved Prophet, instead of avenging himself, prayed to God that a devout generation rise from Taif. By the Grace of God, taif remains Muslim to this day. But in the bible, elisha summoned a bear to kill the children who were calling him baldhead.
Pagan rites in Islam? I have no problem if some of the rites in islam are apparently similar to pagan rites, it just mean that those rites were retained, because they are true portions of the religion of Abraham which survived with the arabs. God ordered the Prophet to leave out the pagan additions, and retain the abrahamic rites. what is paganistic is the belief in the god or son of god who became man, was tried, died, harrowed hell, and then rose up again to immortality. that is the core of paganism, the worship of baal, satan the accursed’s favorite lie and it was condemned by God.
Tomas, we love you too, but please, use the mind which God gave you, and use your heart. we muslims believe in the God of Mercy. if you come to Him walking, He will come to you running, and if you come to Him on a handspan’s length, He will come to you at the length of an arm’s width. were you to come to Him with sins equal to the whole world, He will meet you with forgiveness thereof, with no need for blood, unlike the demons who pretend to be gods, who need blood to feed on, kind of like how you think of God. peace, and may God Almighty grant you His Guidance.
rambo said on 15 February 2006:
Jesus is the name of all names, To him every knee will bow and every tounge will confess, he is the light of all light, and that is something every muslim, jew ,hindu and athiest will one day confess (Judgement day). You should turn to him now while you still have a chance to be saved , for he loves you. I would love foryou to comment me back , thank you , Tomas Nona.
–If this god of yours is all love as you say and that he got spat at and tortured by Satan’s buddies and finally nailed to a cross then why would any Muslim, Jew, Hindu etc want to bow down before this god of yours? Isn’t love all about bowing down before your enemies? Why wouldn’t “love thy enemy” apply on judgement day?
rambo said on 15 February 2006:
You said:
“Jesus words never change
(Matthew 24:35)
I’ll show you that he does change his words from the same book that you quoted above.
matthew 5:14-16
14″You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and PUT IT UNDER A BOWL. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives LIGHT to EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE. 16In the same way, let your light SHINE BEFORE MEN, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
The only way the light is going to shine is by doing what he condemns in
matthew 6:1-4 otherwise how else is the light going to shine? By putting it under a bowl?
1″Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to BE SEEN BY THEM. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2″So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
In these verses he wants to put the LIGHT UNDER THE bowl.
azhari said on 24 February 2006:
im not alearned muslim but always try to insha allah. Reading through the comment is very intersting. here in malaysia, there are muslim converted to christian and alot more from christion to islam.
one thing that i noted is that normally those converted to christin actually muslim that born with and dont really practise islam andwanted to be free but those convert to islam because they want to submit themselves. i have a few new brethren in islam working with me
islamispeace said on 26 February 2006:
Where are you Tomas?
omar_alhabeshi said on 5 March 2006:
I think every issue rose by thomas has been refuted by Islamispeace.
thats all
AK47_Mujahideen (socceristhebest) said on 4 July 2006:
Nice refutation to Thomas brother, that was an enjoyable read of refutations.
As for the article by MENJ, great job on that. It’s all good :-D
Mujaajid said on 9 December 2006:
Jesus said ” ” Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law:”- MATTHEW 10:34-35 > http://islamplanet.jeeran.com/.....peace.html Is bible the book of mercy and peace ??
Tomas ( Tomas said on 11 February 2006: )
Mujaajid said on 9 December 2006:
Mujaajid said on 9 December 2006:
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