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We read the following teachings of the so-called “apostle” from Tarsus, Paul, written in his epistles as follows: Čítame po učenia takzvaný "apoštol" z Tarzu, Paul, písaný v jeho listoch sa mení a dopĺňa takto:
If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. Ak je to možné, ak to záleží na vás, byť v mieri so všetkými ľuďmi. Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” (Romans 12:18-19) Nikdy sa svoje vlastné pomsty, milovaní, ale ponechať priestor pre Boží hnev, lebo je napísané: "Má je pomsta, ja odplatím." (Rimanom 12:18-19)
Another teaching which Paul had written is: Ďalšie výučbe, ktoré Paul napísal je:
Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Bear so sebou a odpustit čokoľvek krívd, ktoré ste proti sebe. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. Odpusťte ako Pán odpustil vám. (Col 3:13) (Kol 3:13)
A summary of the above recorded statements by Paul: Zhrnutie vyššie zaznamenané výroky Paul:
- Be at peace with all men. Buďte v mieri so všetkými ľuďmi.
- Never take your own revenge, beloved! Nikdy sa svoje vlastné pomsty, milovaný!
- Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Bear so sebou a odpustit čokoľvek krívd, ktoré ste proti sebe.
We admit that these are all beautiful teachings. My priznať, že to všetko sú krásne učenia. The question now, however, is did Paul himself put these very same teachings of his into effect? Otázkou teraz zostáva, je to Paul sám dal práve tieto učenia jeho platnosť? As it so happens, we beg to differ! Ako to tak stane, budeme mať iný názor!
Paul's Hypocrisy Revealed Paul pokrytectvo Odhalenie
We read in Acts that: Čítame v Skutkoch, že:
And after some days Paul said to Barnabas, “Let us return and visit the brethren in every city in which we proclaimed the word of the Lord, and see how they are.” And Barnabas was desirous of taking John, called Mark, along with them also. A po niekoľkých dňoch povedal Pavel Barnabášovi: "Vráťme sa a navštívte bratmi vo všetkých mestách, v ktorých sme zvestovali slovo Pánovo, a uvidíte, ako sú." A Barnabáš bol s prianím pričom John, volal Mark, spolu s nich tiež. But Paul kept insisting that they should not take him along who had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not gone with them to the work. Ale Paul stále trvá na tom, že by sa nemali brať ho so sebou, ktorí prebehli je v Pamfylii a nešiel s nimi do práce. And there arose such a sharp disagreement that they separated from one another, and Barnabas took Mark with him and sailed away to Cyprus. A tam vznikol taký ostrý nesúhlas, že oddelené od jedného iný, a Barnabáš vzal so sebou Marka a plavil sa na Cyprus. (Acts 15:36-40) (Skutky 15:36-40)
It is clear that Paul and Barnabas had had a sharp disagreement and later parted company because of that same disagreement. Je jasné, že Pavol a Barnabáš mal ostrý nesúhlas a neskôr rozišiel kvôli rovnakej nesúhlasu. So Paul was not following what he had preached, namely to “…be at peace with all men” (Romans 12:18). Takže Paul nebol po to, čo on kázal, a to "... v mieri so všetkými ľuďmi" (Rimanom 12:18).
We also observe that Paul had not forgiven John (called Mark) for having abandoned him and Barnabas at Pamphylia (Acts 15:38) and opposed Barnabas' plan to take John with him. Tiež poznamenať, že Paul bol neodpustil John (tzv. OZ) za to, že opustil ho a Barnabáš na Pamfylie (Skutky 15:38) a proti Barnabáš 'plán, aby John s ním. Apparently Paul had amnesia with regard to his teaching, “forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Zrejme Paul mal amnézia s ohľadom na jeho učenie, "odpusť nech krivdy, ktoré ste proti sebe. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Col. 3:13). Odpusťte ako Pán odpustil vám "(Ko 3:13). So why did not Paul forgive John for abandoning him earlier? Tak prečo nie Paul odpustit John pre upustenie od neho predtým?
Further, regarding revenge, this snake taught that “Never take your own revenge, beloved!” (Romans 12:19) but yet Paul himself took his revenge against John (called Mark) by refusing to take him in the journey. Ďalej, pokiaľ ide o pomstu, Ten had učil, že "Neber si vlastný pomstu, milovaný!" (Rimanom 12:19), ale napriek tomu Paul sám vzal pomstu John (tzv. OZ) tým, že odmietla, aby mu v ceste. So again we ask, why did Paul seek his revenge against John when he had clearly forbidden this? Takže znova sa pýtame, prečo sa Paul hľadať svoje pomsty proti John, keď si jasne zakázané tohle? He is no doubt a clear-cut hypocrite , through and through! On je bezpochyby jasný pokrytec, skrz naskrz!
On a related sidenote, this snake also has used Na súvisiace sidenote, Ten had je tiež použitý Jesus Ježiš '(P) name in his teachings when in reality it is not originally from Jesus(P), but from his own concoction. '(P), meno v jeho učenie, keď v skutočnosti to nie je pôvodne od Ježiša (P), ale z jeho vlastnej lektvar. For example, in 1 Corinthians 15:6, Paul taught that the resurrected Christ had appeared to over five hundred breathren at one time but this episode is not available in the Gospels. Napríklad v 1 Korintským 15:6, Paul učil, že zmŕtvychvstalý Kristus zjavil viac ako päťsto breathren naraz, ale táto epizóda nie je k dispozícii v evanjeliách. Another proof is in Acts 20:35, whereby Paul cites, “remember the words of the Lord Jesus how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive” . Ďalším dôkazom je v Skutkoch 20:35, kedy Paul CITES, "Pamätajte na slová Pána Ježiša, ako povedal, to je viac požehnanie dávať ako dostávať". This citation is certainly not from Jesus(P) because nowhere in the Gospels is this quote to be found and attributed to Jesus(P). Táto citácia je určite nie od Ježiša (P), pretože nikde v evanjeliách, je tento citát sa nachádza, a pripísať k Ježišovi (P). This same snake has also urged all the Jews amongst the Gentiles to forsake Moses(P), he told them not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs (Acts 21:21), this goes against what Jesus(P) himself taught. To isté had tiež vyzvala všetky Židov medzi pohanmi, že Opustiš Mojžiš (P), povedal im, aby obriezku svoje deti, ani chodiť potom, čo colné (Skutky 21:21), to ide proti tomu, čo Ježiš (P) sám učil. But sadly, the Christian missionaries and Christians in general have taken this hypocrite as their “apostle” and they generally behave like him as well. Ale bohužiaľ, kresťanskí misionári, a kresťania vo všeobecnosti prijali to pokrytec ako "apoštol" a všeobecne sa správajú rovnako ako on tiež.
Conclusions Závery
It is very clear from the above exposition that Paul was a hypocrite, and hence, how could the Christian missionaries expect Muslims to accept this snake as a legitimate “follower” of the Messiah Jesus(P), the son of Mary? Je veľmi zrejmé, z vyššie uvedeného výkladu, že Paul bol pokrytec, a tým, ako by kresťanskí misionári očakávajú, že moslimovia o prijatí tohto hada ako legitímnu "nasledovník" z Mesiáša Ježiša (P), syn Márie? Paul clearly told others to make peace but he himself did not practice what he had preached when he had a sharp disagreement with Barnabas and they parted company (Acts 15). Paul jasne povedal ostatným, aby sa mier, ale on sám nemal riadiť tým, čo mu kázal, keď mal ostré nezhody s Barnabášom a oni rozdelili spoločnosť (Sk 15). This totally contradicts what he had earlier taught, namely “be at peace with all men” (Romans 12:18) and “forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. To absolútne odporuje to, čo mal predtým učil, a to "byť v mieri so všetkými ľuďmi" (Rimanom 12:18) a "odpustit bez ohľadu na sťažnosti, ktoré ste proti sebe. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.” (Col. 3:13) Odpusťte ako Pán odpustil vám. "(Ko 3:13)
He had also taken his revenge upon John (called Mark) because John had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not gone with them to the work, as recorded in Acts 15, even though he told the Romans, “Never take your own revenge, beloved!” (Romans 12:19). On mal tiež vziať svoju pomstu na John (tzv. OZ), pretože John opustil je v Pamfylii a nešiel s nimi do práce, ako je zaznamenané v Skutkoch 15, aj keď povedal Rimanom: "Neber si vlastný pomstu, milovaní ! "(Rimanom 12:19). It seem that it was Barnabas who was more religious than Paul because he did not take his revenge upon John. Zdá sa, že to bol Barnabáš, ktorý bol viac nábožensky založení ako Paul, pretože nemal pomstiť na John.
Which leads us to the question: Ktorá nás vedie k otázke:
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If Paul himself has failed to follow what he had taught, would he indeed follow what Jesus(P) had taught? Ak sa Paul sám nedokázal sledovať, čo sa naučil, bol by skutočne sledovať, čo Ježiš (P) naučil?
And only God knows best. A len Boh vie najlepšie.
4 Responses for 4 Citlivosť prístroja pre "Paul of Tarsus: The Clear-Cut Hypocrite" "Pavol z Tarzu: jasný Pokrytec"
[...] While Islam does not have any notion of a taqiyyah except in the minds of those who whale about it, in Christianity we can find an interesting example of how one can resort to taqiyyah. [...] Aj keď islam nemá žiadne poňatie o taqiyyah výnimkou v mysliach tých, ktorí veľryby o tom, v kresťanstve môžeme nájsť zaujímavý príklad toho, ako človek môže uchýliť k taqiyyah. Namely, the example of Paul of Tarsus, who was not only a scheming imposter, but a hypocrite and a false prophet. Menovite sa jedná napríklad o Pavla z Tarzu, ktorý bol nielen intrikánského podvodník, ale pokrytec a falošný prorok. Such is the taqiyyah resorted to by this man that he said thus: “But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless being crafty, I caught you with guile.” (2 Corinthians 12:16) [...] Taký je taqiyyah uchyľuje k tejto muža, povedal takto: "Ale nech už je to tak, som sa ťa zaťažovať: napriek tomu je ľstivý, chytil som si s machinácie." (2 Korintským 12:16) [...]
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Tera Tak Adamar, You surely don't like Paul for some reason. Tera Tak Adamar, ste iste nepáči Paul z nejakého dôvodu. But I need to correct you on some points you made about Paul. Ale musím opraviť si v niektorých bodoch ste o Paule. Yes he did have a argument over Mark, but no where does it say that he didn't forgive him. Áno, on predsa mal argument cez Marka, ale nie kde to hovorí, že nemal odpusť mu. In 2Timothy 4:9-13 Paul states: 9Do your best to come to me quickly, 10for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica. V 2Timothy 4:9-13 Paul hovorí: 9Do si, abys prišiel ku mne rýchlo, 10for Demas, pretože on miloval tento svet, opustil ma a odišiel do Solúna. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus to Dalmatia. Crescens odišiel do Galacie, a Titus do Dalmácie. 11Only Luke is with me. 11Only Lukáš je so mnou. Get Mark and bring him with you, because he is helpful to me in my ministry. Marka vezmi ho so sebou, pretože je užitočné, aby ma v mojom ministerstve. 12I sent Tychicus to Ephesus. 12i poslal Tychika do Efezu. 13When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, and my scrolls, especially the parchments. 13When ste prišiel, aby plášť, ktorý som nechal s Zápästie v Troady, a moje zvitky, najmä pergameny. You can read it for yourself Paul here is at the end of his life and he is asking for Mark, and not only asking for him but praises him to,and it's in the bible for all time. Môžete si prečítať, že pre seba Paul tu je na konci jeho života a on sa pýta na Marka, a to nielen pre neho žiada, ale chváli ho, a je to v Biblii pre všetky časy. And your other points of disageement, I don't have exact evidence, but in John 21:24-25, John states: 24This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. A vaše ďalšie miesta disageement, nemám presné dôkazy, ale John 21:24-25, John uvádza: 24This je žiak, ktorý svedčí o tom, aby tieto veci a kto písal je. We know that his testimony is true. Vieme, že pravé jest svedectvo jeho.
25Jesus did many other things as well. 25Jesus robil mnoho iných vecí, rovnako. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. Ak sa jeden každý z nich bolo napísané, myslím, že aj celý svet nebude mať priestor na knihy, ktoré by byť v písomnej forme. You can believe it or not about what Paul claims to have happen or said, that's not the Question. Môžete veriť tomu alebo nie o tom, čo Pavol tvrdí, že štát, alebo povedal, že to nie je otázka. The Question is what will you do with Jesus Christ's claims of being God Almighty in the flesh. Otázka je, čo budete robiť s nárokmi Ježiša Krista bytia Boha všemohúceho v tele. You can believe what you want or what you have been told, but Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh, even His name is Yeshua, (God with us). Môžete veriť tomu, čo chcete, alebo čo bolo povedané, ale Ježiš vyhlasoval, že je Boh v tele, aj jeho meno je Yeshua, (Boh s nami). And that snake wrote in Romans 10:8-13: 8But what does it say? A to had napísal v Rimanom 10:8-13: 8But čo to hovoria? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. "Slovo je vo vašom okolí, je vo vašich ústach a v tvojom srdci," to je slovo viery sme vyhlásili: 9That Lebo keď vyznáš svojimi ústami, "Ježiš je Pán," a veriť vo svojom srdci, že Boh vzkriesil z mŕtvych, budeš spasený. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 10For je to s svojom srdci, že si myslíte, a sú opodstatnené, a je svojimi ústami, že ste priznať a sú uložené. 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile?the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 11As Písmo hovorí: "Každý, kto v neho verí, nikdy nebude zahanbený." 12For nie je žiadny rozdiel medzi Židom a pohan? Rovnaký Pán je Pánom všetkých a bohato požehná všetkým, ktorí volajú na neho, 13for "Každý, kto vzýva meno Pánovo, bude spasený. "
We will never know all things until we stand before our Righteous God, but one thing I do know is that Jesus is my reason for living and He gives me assurance that I am saved from my sins and hope someday that you can know the same fact in your life. Nikdy sa nedozvieme, všetky veci, až stojíme pred naším Bohom spravodlivý, ale jednu vec viem, je, že Ježiš je môj zmysel života, a on mi dáva istotu, že som zachránený od svojich hriechov, a dúfam, že jedného dňa môžete poznať rovnakú skutočnosť vo vašom živote.
In His Love Vo svojej láske
Michael Michael
Turpin, the main problem I have with your reply is that it is based on a shaky source. Turpin, hlavný problém mám s Vašou odpoveďou je, že je založený na vratkých zdroj. Whether you agree with the arguments or not, the fact is that according to the scholarly concensus, Paul is not the author of 2 Timothy (or of 1 Timothy and Titus). Či už dávate súhlas s argumentmi, alebo nie, faktom je, že podľa vedeckých konsenzu, Paul nie je autorom 2 Timoteovi (alebo 1 Timoteovi a Títovi). Although the writings claim to have been authored by Paul, scholars are reasonably certain that Paul is not their author. Aj keď sa spisy tvrdia, že boli od autora Paul, učenci sú dostatočne isté, že Paul nie je ich autorom.
Therefore, we can view the statement in 2 Timothy as the product of later Christians who desired to smooth the conflict between Paul and others. Preto môžeme zobraziť výpis v 2 Timoteovi ako produkt neskorších kresťanov, ktorí túžili hladké konflikt medzi Paul a ďalší.
Now, relying sole upon the undoutedly authentic Pauline writings, there is no indication within them that Paul forgave Mark and others. Teraz sa spoliehať iba na undoutedly autentickej spisy Pauline, neexistuje žiadny náznak, v nich, že Paul odpustil Marka a ďalšie. On the contrary, Paul comes out as an arrogant individual who believes that only he is right and that he is the boss. Naopak, Paul vyjde ako arogantný jednotlivec, ktorý sa domnieva, že len on má pravdu a že on je šéf. Thus, as long as Paul is the boss its alright, and he reacts angrily as soon as his authority is questioned. Tak, ako dlho ako Paul je šéf jeho v poriadku, a on reaguje zlostně, akonáhle jeho orgán je spochybňovaná. Later writings, such as Acts, try to salvage the image of Paul by smoothing the sharp conflicts we encounter in Paul's own writings. Neskôr spisy, ako sú zákony, sa snažia zachrániť image Paul vyhladením ostré konflikty sa stretávame vo vlastných vyjadreniach Paula.
Turpin, you write: Turpin, môžete napísať:
“And your other points of disageement, I don?t have exact evidence, but in John 21:24-25, John states: 24This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. "A vaše ďalšie miesta disageement, ja nie? Nemám presné dôkazy, ale John 21:24-25, John uvádza: 24This je žiak, ktorý svedčí o tom, aby tieto veci a kto písal je. We know that his testimony is true. Vieme, že jeho svedectvo je pravdivé.
25Jesus did many other things as well. 25Jesus robil mnoho iných vecí, rovnako. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.” Ak sa jeden každý z nich bolo napísané, myslím, že aj celý svet nebude mať priestor na knihy, ktoré by byť v písomnej forme. "
There is almost universal agreement among scholars that the whole of chapter 21 was added to the gospel of John by an unknown redactor after the unknown author completed the gospel. Tam je takmer univerzálna dohoda medzi vedcami, že je celá kapitola 21 bol pridaný do evanjelium John od neznámeho redaktor potom, čo neznámy autor dokončil evanjelium. Who is this “beloved disciple”? Kto to je "milovaný žiak"? John is not the author of this gospel, it's an anonymous book. John nie je autorom tohto evanjelia, je to anonymné knihu.
You also write: Môžete tiež napísať:
“The Question is what will you do with Jesus Christ?s claims of being God Almighty in the flesh.” "Otázka je, čo budete robiť s Ježišom Kristom? S pohľadávkami je Boh všemohúci v tele."
I think there is no such statement made by Jesus (P) which is found within the gospels. Myslím, že nie je tam žiadna taká vyhlásenie, ktoré urobil Ježiš (P), ktorý sa nachádza v evanjeliách.
You proceed: Môžete pokračovať:
“You can believe what you want or what you have been told, but Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh, even His name is Yeshua, (God with us).” "Môžeš veriť tomu, čo chcete, alebo čo bolo povedané, ale Ježiš vyhlasoval, že je Boh v tele, aj jeho meno je Yeshua, (Boh s nami)."
This is weak argument. To je slabý argument. Can you tell us what Ishmael means? Môžete nám povedať, čo Ismael znamená?
Moving on: Pohybujúce sa na:
“And that snake wrote in Romans 10:8-13: 8But what does it say? "A že had napísal v Rimanom 10:8-13: 8But čo to hovoria? ?The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,? ? Slovo je vo vašom okolí, je vo vašich ústach a v tvojom srdci,? that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, ?Jesus is Lord,? to je slovo viery sme vyhlásili: 9That Lebo keď vyznáš svojimi ústami? Ježiš je Pán,? and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. a veriť vo svojom srdci, že ho Boh vzkriesil z mŕtvych, budeš spasený. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 10For je to s svojom srdci, že si myslíte, a sú opodstatnené, a je svojimi ústami, že ste priznať a sú uložené. 11As the Scripture says, ?Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.?12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile?the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, ?Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.?” 11As Písmo hovorí,? Každý, kto v neho verí, nikdy nebude zahanbený.? 12For nie je žiadny rozdiel medzi Židom a pohan? Rovnaký Pán je Pánom všetkých a bohato požehná všetkým, ktorí volajú na neho, 13for,? Každý, kto vzýva meno Pánovo, bude spasený.? "
Now, I believe you said that JESUS (P) claimed to be god. Teraz verím, ste povedal, že Ježiš (P) tvrdil, že je boh. So far you havent quoted any alleged words of Jesus (P), we just have Paul, who, btw, does not quite say that Jesus (P) is god. Zatiaľ ste havent citoval údajné Ježišove slová (P), budeme musieť Paul, ktorý, btw, nie je úplne povedať, že Ježiš (P) je Boh.
Finally, I will add that it's quite wrong to refer to Paul as a “snake” and use other similar offensive words. Nakoniec, ja dodávam, že je to docela zle sa odkazovať na Paula ako "had" a použiť iné podobné urážlivé slová. We may disagree with Paul, but that can be done in a respectable manner. Môžeme nesúhlasiť s Paulom, ale to dá urobiť slušný spôsobom. So I hope that the author of the paper removes the abusive descriptions of Paul. Takže dúfam, že autor príspevku odstraňuje zneužitia popisy Paul.
“To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews; to those under the law I became as one under the law – though not being myself under the law – that I might win those under the law. "To som Židom ako Žid, s cieľom vyhrať Židov, na tie, ktoré vyplývajú práva som sa stal ako jeden podľa zákona - aj keď nie je sám pod zákonom -, že by som mohla vyhrať ty podľa práva. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law – not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ – that I might win those outside the law.” (I Corinthians 9, 20) Pre tých, mimo zákon som sa stal ako jeden mimo zákon - nie je bez zákona Bohu, ale podľa zákona Kristovho -, že by som mohol vyhrať ktorí sa ocitli mimo zákon. "(I Kor 9, 20)
yeah paul, eat kosher in the morning and then eat pig in the evening.we all know you didn't want to reveal to the people you were targeting that you were under “law of christ.” Jo paul, jesť kóšer ráno a potom jesť prasa evening.we všetci vieme, že ste nechcel odhaliť ľudí, boli zacielenie, že ste boli v rámci "zákon Kristov."