Yeshua has said that upon the -revelation that He is the Son of Elohim-, he would build his assembly: So if hell shall not overcome the revelation, how can man?

Pharaoh began a fight against YHVH Elohim and lost. YHVH Elohim made sure that the whole world would know that those who fight against him will surely be humbled. Likewise with Sha’ul who was persecuting the followers of Yeshua: Sha’ul went against the advice of his own Torah teacher Gamaliel, and persecuted the followers of Yeshua, but Yeshua met him on the way to Damascus, reminding him of his teacher’s advice. When a man makes a fight with God, who will win? When a man beats his wife don’t they both hurt?

The zeal to evangelise the whole world is a work of the Holy Spirit of God, and not of ourselves only: … So can a fisherman persuade 3000 souls in one day, without the power of God?

The light of the world shines in the darkness, the power of God blows in like the wind. Those who are unloved are loved, and those who are in bondage are set free. In the name and by the blood of Yeshua the Holy One of Israel. Not by might, not by power, but by the Holy Spirit of God.

I would to correct an important misconception. While it is true the Jews consider themselves “God’s Chosen People”, that has nothing to do with arrogance. Both Islam and Christianity recognize that the Jewish people were to first to be called to the faith of the One God and given the Torah on Mount Sinai. The Torah (which corresponds to the first 5 books of the Christian Old Testament)provides the foundation for both the Holy Quran and the Holy Bible. Choseness implies a special relationship, one of servitude to the One God and not about looking down on the rest of humanity. Judaism is a non judgmental religion that does not focus on heaven or hell. Nowhere in Hebrew Bible (which corresponds to the Christian Old Testament) does it talk of non believers going to hell. This concept was first introduced in the Christian Gospels. Therefore, Judaism does not judge Moslems nor Christians and maintains that the “righteous of all nations will have a place in the world to come”.

What Judaism does do is to focus on right living, ethical conduct and justice. Jews have been in the forefront of social change, scientific achievement and artistic excellence throughout human history from Moses to Jesus, from Benjamin Disraeli to Karl Marx and from Albert Einstein to Steven Spielberg.

Judaism predated both Christianity and Islam. The first Christians were mainly Jews and Christianity initially grew as a sect within Judaism, deriving its initial forms of worship from Judaism and meeting in the synagogue or Jewish house of worship. Christianity started to deviate from its Jewish beginnings only in the 2nd-3rd century after it first appeared when Jewish Christians were outnumbered by Gentile Converts and with the conversion of the Roman polity to Christianity.

There is much similarity between Islam and Judaism. There were thriving Jewish communities (and smaller Christian communities) in the Arabian peninsula during the time of Mohammad although most of these communities ceased to exist within the first century of the rise of Islam. Both Jews and Moslems do not eat pork and do not permit graven images of any kind in their house of worship. Jewish dietary practices (kosher) have similarities with Moslem halal practices. For example animals are brought to a quick death by a slit to the carotid arteries and the carcass of the animal is hung upside down to drain the blood. These laws are described in detail in the Torah. Finally, both Moslems and Jews pray in the direction of their holy cities - Mecca in the case of Moslems and Jerusalem in the case of Jews.

Jews do not want to fight with Moslems nor Christians. It is sad that Israel is much maligned as we have no voice to speak to in countries like Malaysia so there is little prospect for understanding. Jews are not interested in taking over the world nor can we do so even if we wanted to. We are too few in number with only 13-14 million worldwide. It is easy to hate us when you are not even able to speak with us so you imagine us as gargolyes bent on world domination.

Not every Jew is smart nor rich. Although the Israeli economy grew by 5-6% per annum last year (inspite of the war in Lebanon) and it has a per capita income of close to US$20,000 with high-tech exports to many countries, unemployment is at 8.5% and the poverty rate exceeds 20%. There is only one Jewish nation in the world. It is so small, probably no larger than the state of Selangor and very dry as it is located in a semi-arid region of the world with long dry summers. Nor does Israel have any oil or gas. All it has is the talent of its 6 million people trying to make a living in a pretty unfriendly neighborhood.

So this business about choseness is not something we are proud of. It is a yoke that is heavy to carry and in a world full of hate and misery we can only enjoin with our Moslem and Christian brothers to pray for peace. My hope is for Israel to be accepted among its Arab neighbors and Christians, Moslems and Jews to work for world peace together. You see, we Moslems, particularly the Arabs are after all semitic cousins and share a common ancestor in Abraham/Ibrahim. And Jesus, who inspired Christianity was Jewish - he lived his life as Jew, was true to Torah, enlightened the meaning of Torah and died a Jew is regarded by both Christians, Moslems (and some Jews) as the Messiah.

Moses taught the Law, Jesus taught Love and the Prophet Mohammad taught submission to God and there is actually a lot of commonality in all of these messages because the common thread must be about respect for each other because if we love God we must after all love each other.

Common man don’t get involved in this fight.Christian missionaries are known to create truble in every part of the world. If I have to choose a better devil between the two - will choose Islam. It’s anytime better than Christian teaching. But supporting one of them would be escaping from tiger’s mouth and falling into crocodile’s mouth. You support Christians in Malaysia thinking we are minorities, they will put carrot in your *** like what they are known to do.

2) Building churches that look similar to mosques : Muslims were turned off from entering churches because they looked different, that also made them feel very uncomfortable with them. They also changed the internal structure of the church to look similar to a mosque, the people sit on the floor and in lines. They have circles (7alaqat) for teaching and that sort of stuff. They started using a new way for reciting the bible that is similar to the Tarteel of Quran. The also try to compare Christ in Islam to Christ in “Christianity”. They misquoted Tafseer Al-jalaleen, and make it sound like the Tafseer says Jesus PBUH knows the time of Domesday (ya3lamu Assa3a), when you refer to Al-Jalaleen you find that the time of Domesday is known to be very soon when Jesus comes (to3lamu benozolihi assa3a). In other words they lie in a shamefuly. This is used to fool the muslim who is not educated about his religion. Another book is “Al-saleeb fi al-injeel wal-quran”, where they claim that Shiekh Al-fakhr Al-Razi believes that Jesus was killed on the cross, when you check al-Tafseer Al-Kabeer you find that this is a big lie. Al-Fakhr Al-Razi quoted a question from a Christiana guy then took pages to answer it so they quoted the QUESTION of the Christian guy!!! This is one of many examples.

3) Names : they started using Islamic names, for examples one of their radio stations that has a person that is responsible for answering the questions of the listeners is called “Shiekh Abdallah”, his program is called “Allahu Akbar”, other radio stations are called “Sawt Al-7aq”, “noor 3ala noor”. They can use different names but they use these only to confuse muslims with their misguided preaching.

4) The started a new way, not to tell muslims things as they are, for example not to tell them that Xtians believe that Jesus is the Son of Allah (a3ooth Billah), since Jesus himself didn’t use that expression, so they use other words like “the spirit of Allah” since it is closer to the understanding of a muslim. They also use titles that are common between the two religions such as “Assalah”, “Assawm”, “Assadaqa” which include Christian propaganda but a title that is used to hunt muslim readers.

5) The use of Islamic expressions such as “bismilalhi Al-Rahmani Al-raheem”, “Jesus Alaihi assalam”, “Allah subhanah”, “Allah tabarak wa ta3ala” … calling their churches “boyoot Allah” (houses of God). They sometimes even claim to accept Islam as a religion from God, but they say that Christianity was not canceled by Islam! (ghayr-nasekh). There is a book called “deen Al-Masee7 lam Yonsakh” by Iskandar Jadid (Xtian), he also misquoted Al-Jalaleen claiming that they said that muslims must ask the people of the book “Is’alo ahlal-thikr” when in fact Al-Jalaleen were explaining that Allah was asking the Kufar to check with Ahl Al-Kitab that Allah always sent MALE messengers only, like Jesus, Moses, David … etc pubt. And to ask them onyl about that, not anything else.

6) Making concessions to win muslims : for examples making Qudas (Christian ceremony) on Fridays not on Sundays to confuse muslims, this was done in Kuwait for example.

7) Accepting the princeple of polygamy. A funny thing to mention, In England, there was a conference in 1409 AD for priests (assaaqifat Al-Injeel) and a big discussion took place about polygamy, many of them totally rejected that issue and said that this is one thing they use against Islam, but they faced the problem that if they didn’t allow polygamy they will lose their campaigns in Africa, after realizing that, they allowed it. There are catholic priest in Africa with 40 wives or more.

8) They say that many muslims have changed to Christianity and they publish books and cassettes about that. For example the book “limatha sirtu masee7iyan?” for a writter “sultan Muhammad Bolous”, a weird mix of Christian and muslim names, they claim in this book that this person was a muslim from Afghanistan who was the son of a scholar and went to Mecca to do Hajj, asked Allah for one thing which was to give him the true guidance, then the book says they he accepted Christianity, the rest of the book is attacks on Islam that appear to be written by someone who has done a whole lot of research and is very deep into Islamic issues. It is very obvious that this book is false and forged, this is a way that is used quite a lot by Christians and even shi3a and the other misguided, lost sects who claim that Ahlul-sunna wal-jama3a do the same thing (go to Hajj and ask for true guidance and accept their sect .. ). Another book “Sudan rushes to God”, giving a lot of stories about many people who came back to Xtianity, many of them are actually originaly Christians who strengthen their bond with the (Adden Al-Mansookh, deen Al-Kaneesah) unrighteous way. some other cases they to be originaly muslims. We say in answer “In Tastafti7o faqad Ja’akom Al-Fat7u”, Sudan is rushing to Allah because Islamic law is being applied more and more day by day, The Xtian military state in the south loses more and more and now it is a little insignificant group that has no place to stay, the kafir tribes in the south are coming into the religion of Allah. Like Allah said in his book, when the victory of Allah comes, and you see the people coming into Islam in big groups then do “tasbee7″ for Allah and thank him a lot, aski him for forgiveness because he is Attawab. (surat Al-FatH).

9) Taking the children from their parents and raising them according to their belief. for example in England they started special Hotels for children where they stay there with no connection with their parents, the workers there speak many languages, funny how most of them are muslim spoken languages (eg Arabic). Another example is Bosnia children who were taken from Bosnia in Italy and France where they are raised according to Xtian belief, children who are 3month-3years old who know nothing about their original religion. Even if these children discover what happened to them they will still have doubts from what was taught to them for all their lives.

10) Education Curriculums : In Egypt the Christians there protested and asked to remove the verses of Quran and the Hadeeths from curriculums, they write several articles in the newspapers. And how fast do you think did the government answer? in a very short while the curriculums were changed and the verses and Ahadeth were dropped, the government used the excuse “the material was too hard for the children”, compare that to how they teach muslims to forget Allah and accept Kufr such as Jesus is the son of God.

11) The use of Natural disasters : Such as wars, floods, … etc, for example in Sudan they had such things when Sudan had its starvation, muslims had to choose either take food+Kufr, or stay a muslim, but a hungry muslim. It is also sad that the aids that muslims send were distributed by Christians such as the Red Cross and others, these funds were sent by Muslims in the Gulf and the rest of the world for the muslims in Somalia, Sudan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan. It is also sad that all the aid that goes to Bosnia is given by German institutions, what do we expect from these people? they use they funds and resources to spread their religion and to spread hatred of one muslim towards the other (”the cross comes with food for you, your muslim brothers forgot you”).

12) Making conditions easy for new converts from Islam to Xtianity : These converts are treated by other muslims as a traitor and something shameful, and that is the truth. They also saw that new converts feel left and abandoned, they also do not find full satisfaction with Xtianity. Something i want to mention, a book a looked at “Al-Masi7i Al-Mubashir bayna Al-Muslimeen” (The Christians missionary among muslims). This book was printed in Laghous in Nigeria and was given to all the missionaries in that area, this books explains how the missionary can get the best results of his preaching. It says : ” the Christian missionary must offer a great love for new converts, as well as regular muslims, be nice to him. Learn about Islam not only to distroy muslims belief, but also to understand the similarities between Islam and Xtianity so that YOU START WITH THESE POINTS. Talk to them about Jesus, tell them that he loves them and that he is their Saviour. Do not argue the faith, give them a general idea, a fast answer, even try to make it as a joke. Especially the trinity,or the idea that Jesus is god (Addition from the person typing this article PS:this exactelly is what Xtian missionaries on the Usenet do), logical conclusions and discussions then we will fail, therefore we must ignore the subject or even make it a joke, also use similar things, for example Ibn-Assabell, say that Jesus is Ibn-Assabel” and that is a great lie because these missionaries say that Jesus is son of god not Ibn-Assabel. Some of the advises that are used in that book “avoid discussing the prophet Mohammad (we add Salla Allahu Alaihi Wa Sallam) and tell them that God will evaluate Mohammad, you don’t evaluate him. Also use the point of freedom of religion, use the verse from Quran that says that.” It is known to muslims that fi a muslim changes religion his punishment is to be killed, the prophet PPOABUH said “if a muslim changes religion then kill him.” Also the book says “Do not try to change the religion of the muslim right away, try to first make them accept Jesus as their lover and Saviour, then you must encourage them to get babtized and declare their new religion.” The book also says “muslim converts must not marry Christians, it has been proven that he may marry another muslim women” but the truth is that in many cases converts into Christianity change back into Islam and their Christian wives change with them too. Christian girls must marry Christian youth.

We should apply sound reasoning and not be bias to quote only part of a text just to make our argument sound good n convincing. What is the point by doing that? Would God be happy of the person been converted due to a half truth or a lie? Or would Satan be? Thanks to “lewis said on 29 October 2006″.

We all know the old testement(Torah) was written by the Israelite of old times. Please do not bring modern day Israel into the picture. That would be clasified under mordern day MiddleEast Politics n Struggle. After which there are books of Phrophets of Israel. The phrophets were specifically called to speak to the people n nation of Israel then. All are the books makes up the Old Testament of the Bible. The Gospels of Jesus Christ together with the recordings of his disciples are the New Testament. 600 years later then came Mohammad(PBUH). Who was told by an angel to resite the parts of verses of the Quran on separate times. After Mohammad’s(PBUH) death, his followers recollect the verses from memory n patchments and consolidate them into Quran. There were problems during the compilation but we will not discuss the matter.

So Judaism, Christianity and Islam do have common root. However, there are differences of text in Quran compared to Torah/Books of the Phrophets and also Bible’s New Testaments. Mordern day Islamic scholars are not able to explain why there are differences of text of in the Torah/Bible. Only explanation for scriptures that are suppose to be the same but now is not connected or pointing at different phrophecies is someone must have altered/corrupted the scriptures. At this point, I would like to ask all to use reason to decide which of the scriptures is right and which is corrupted. If u think one of it is corruptedl, the which part of it is corrupted.

The torah n the bible which have a good linking of characters and story line, written by many authors as compared to Quran, coming from one source claiming the authority of the most high, and of the phrophets from a land hundreds of kilometers away but does not have any linkage to them. Which is corrupt it is up to you to decide, but aways remember, are you making God happy or are you making Satan happy? The answer? God will aquire of you when you are presented before Him, after your death. No one can answer on your behalf. Not a priest, iman, reverend, mullah, pastore, sami or politician will be able to answer for you.

“Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islâm) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Qur’ân) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.”

As for you quoting the above ayah of the Qur’an and writting a lot of hater crap, shows you need to read the ayah carefully.

Regarding the Tabligi Jamaat, I am sure if you used your eyes and tried to use your brain with it you might have noticed how many people around the world have change because of its work. You so-called Salafi’s would and continue to jump up and down, ready for an arguement, should chill out and analayze.

It started as a revival for Muslims “O Muslims, become Muslims”. You might know that just by calling yourself a Muslim and going Shirk does not make a person a Muslim. Most of my village upto the ’70’s did some sort of shirk until the Jamaat came. No one would let them in the Masjid’s. They had to do Salat in someones guesthouse. Now most of the village has stopped wrong practises and all the Masjid’s allow them in. There are many such cases international, even where whole villages and towns have become Murtad and because of the works of Tabilghi Jamaat the people have become Muslims. Yes a lot of times they (as Tabilghi Jamaat) do not talk to people who call themselves non-Muslims but individually people who join with the works of the Jamaat do talk to non-Muslims. I personally know of 5 people (from the top of my head) in my area who have become Muslims through people who are link to the Jamaat. 2 whites (former Christians), 1 Indian (former Sikh), 1 Zimbabwean (former Christian), 1 Congolese (former Christian and member of the opposition in former Zaire!). So it is more a wake up for Muslims and people who call themselves Muslims, a “handspan”, a first step, so they can move on and implement Islam fully in there lives.
Personally I did not like the way they did there dawah at one time, because I thought I knew better. That was until, a person who was returning from Raiwand (where there is the second largest gathering of Muslims in the world every year) near Lahore said to a conductor of a Toyota Hiace….(you must know the line)…we have read the Kalima….now you read it…why is he asking Muslim I thought (I was very critical of the Jamaat as I was a Ghair Muqallid)…anyhow to my shock and amazement, the conductor who lived in the “Islamic Republic of Pakistan” did not know it!!! So we had to teach him all the way to Lahore, he just about got it when we jumped off near the Badshahi Masjid in Lahore. So this is my experience with the Jamaat. It is positive. But you do get people talking rubbish sometimes. By the way it now international, jamaats come out of Makkah and Madina and my friend told me when he was in Palestine in Masjidul Aqsa they where doing bayans there.

“O Muslims, become Muslims”

A careful reading of Deutoronomy 18:18 will tell you that the new prophet that will be raised among the Israelites is not Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). The context of that chapter is that Moses shall not be granted the permission to enter the promised land, Canaan; and God will raise another leader to lead them into the promised land. In verse 15, Moses said, ” The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me among you, from your brothers…” indicates that the leader chosen is among them (an Israelite) in this case. As for Isaiah 29:12, it does not speak anything about a prophet but of the stubborness of the Israelites, and therefore disposed to exile.

I believe there is more room for discussion on this.

Does stating the truth of deviance constitute slandering the Tablighis? I don’t think so. I do not plan to engage in a useless debate with you whom I can guess to be one of them.

The Ulama’s expose the deviant practices of the Jama’at Tabligh. You want to label them and me as Salafis? Go ahead, it makes no difference to me.

I write as I do about the Tabligh because I know for sure what they do! They only go disturb the Muslims who are already observing the obligations of Islam. They skip the homes of the Non Muslims and do not do anything to stop maksiat that takes place before their very eyes!

What does that say about them? They are deviants and useless fools who go around misquoting hadiths and come up with false ones to justify their deviance!

I don’t give a rat’s ass about your trying to speak up for those who clearly are misguiding ignorants and jahils into following a deviant group that only weakens and takes advantage of those who are naive about the true obligations of a Muslim!

“Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islâm) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Qur’ân) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.”

Al-Qur’an Surah An Nahl Verse 125.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala Commands us Muslims through Rasul Sallalahu Alaihi Wassallam’s example to ‘Invite All Mankind to Ad Deenul Islam’ with Wisdom and Beautiful Preaching and to discuss, debate or argue with them the Non Muslims in Ways that are Best and Most Gracious!

Allah SWT does not tell us Muslims to go preach just to Fellow Muslims, does He?

I mean, hello…if Rasul SAW had done just that, to talk to people who were within his circle and reach, you and me would not be Muslims here, debating about a deviant jamaat!

I have personally taken the Jamaat Tabligh who come knocking on my door as to why they skipped visiting my neighbours who are Chinese Buddhists, Christians and Taoists,Indian Hindus, etc?

Their reply? They aren’t Muslims! Well, if they do not go share the Truth about Islam and teach them, the Non Muslims, won’t they be shirking the true responsiblities that Allah SWT has Commanded those of us who call ourselves as Da’ee’s and carrying out the works of Tabligh in the real sense of the word?

I have asked the Jama’at Tabligh to join me in combating maksiat that was taking place before us in my neighbourhood but have always got cock and bull answers in them saying that they hve better things to do than to go confront the maksiat perpetrators!

Talk about being hypocrites!

Rasul SAW has in one of his authentic hadiths commanded us : ” Whomsoever amongst you (Muslims) sees an injustice take place before you to stop it with your hands (power/authority/capabilities); failing which you must speak out against it (go tell them off/ advice/warn/confront/write about it/expose/etc); failing which to hate it in your hearts which is a sign of those weakest in their Iman and close to Kufr!”

Now, is the Tabligh really practicing what Allah SWT and Rasul SAW has asked us Muslims to do?

Think and do your own research about whether the Tabligh Jama’at are right or wrong!

I will keep exposing their deviance as long as I live, Insya Allah! Wabillahi Taufeek Wal hidayah!

Wassalamualaikum.