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Transcript 成绩单 of speech at 在言语 Interfaith Dialogue 4 宗教间对话4 , organised by ，由 MMU Melaka MMU的马六甲

PART 1 第1部分

Bismillahir Rohmanir Rohim . Bismillahir Rohmanir Rohim。 In the name of Almighty God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Alhamdulillahi Robbil ?Alamin .在全能的神的名字阿拉明 ，最仁慈，最仁慈。Alhamdulillahi Robbil？。 All praise is due to Him alone, The Lord, Cherisher and Sustainer of the Universe.所有的赞美，是因为他一人，主，庇佑和宇宙维持者。

The Chairperson, Distinguished Guests, Learned Speakers, Brothers and Sisters, I welcome you with the universal greeting of主席，各位嘉宾，博学音箱，兄弟姐妹们，我欢迎你们的普遍欢迎 Islam伊斯兰教 ; Assalamu?alaikum Warohmatullahi Wabarokatuh ; May Peace, Blessing and Mercy of Almighty God be with you. ; Assalamu？alaikum Warohmatullahi Wabarokatuh; 5月和平，祝福和全能的上帝慈悲与你同在。

First of all I will like to thank the organisors for this invitation.首先，我要感谢这一邀请的支持机构。 I also will like to congratulate MMU Malacca for organizing the 4th Interfaith Forum?Syabas!我也会想祝贺论坛举办的第四届信仰的MMU马六甲？Syabas！

The subject for this evening is ?Religious Scriptures and Science, Conflict or Conciliation??今晚的主题是什么？宗教经文和科学，冲突或调解？？ This subject is basically divided into two parts.这个主题基本上分为两部分。 Firstly we have to compare our Holy Scriptures against Modern Science.首先，我们必须对现代科学的比较，我们的圣经。 Next we need to analyze whether they are compatible or incompatible.接下来，我们需要分析它们是否兼容或不兼容。

This topic is timely and relevant.本主题是及时和相关性。 Today many people are of the opinion that science and religion cannot get along.今天，许多人认为科学与宗教不能相处。 They believe one would only progress if they were to follow science and would stay backwards if they were to follow religion.他们相信一个只会进步，如果他们遵循科学倒退，并会留下，如果他们遵循宗教。 Is this true?这是真的吗？ The famous physicist and Nobel Prize winner, Albert Einstein once said; ?Science without Religion is misguided and Religion without Science is blind?.著名物理学家，诺贝尔奖获得者，爱因斯坦曾经说过;？科学没有宗教是错误的和宗教没有科学是盲目的？。

The Holy Scripture in Islam is the Qur?an.在伊斯兰教的圣经是古兰经？1。 We Muslims believe that the Qur?an is of completely divine origin, being the verbatim words of God sent as guidance for all humankind.我们穆斯林相信古兰经？一个是完全神圣的起源，是上帝对所有人类的指导逐字发送文字。 The Muslims believe that the Qur?an is the last and final revelation of God sent through the last and final prophet of God,在穆斯林认为古兰经？是最后一个，也是最后的启示上帝上帝通过最后和最后的先知发送， Muhammad穆罕默德 pbuh 1400 years ago.愿他平安无恙1400年以前。

The Qur?an is not the book of ?science?古兰经？一书，是不是？科学吗？ but it is the book of ?signs?.但它是图书？迹象？。 The Qur?an contains more than 6000 signs or ayats of which no less than 1000 of it touches on scientific facts.古兰经？一载有6000多迹象或ayats其中不低于它1000年的科学事实触动。

We all know that science sometime takes a u-turn.我们都知道，科学有时需要掉头。 Therefore I would only be speaking on established scientific facts and not on theories or hypothesis as they are not based on proofs but assumptions.因此，我只会说既定的科学事实和理论或假说，因为他们没有证据，但没有假设为基础。

Let us analyze how the universe was created.让我们分析宇宙是如何创建的。 We all know about the ?Big Bang?, where the universe was once joined together as one big primary nebula.我们都知道？大爆炸？，在那里，宇宙曾经加入一个大的主要星云在一起。 Then there was a big bang or explosion which resulted the formation of galaxies.然后是大爆炸或爆炸，导致了星系的形成。 These then divided to form the stars, planets, moons, satellites and the earth we live in. Scientist estimates that there are about 250 billion galaxies in the universe and each galaxy contains 300 billion stars!这些再除以形成恒星，行星，卫星，卫星和我们生活的大约有2500亿星系在宇宙中，每个星系科学家估计地球上有3000亿颗星！

The Qur?an speaks about the ?Big Bang?古兰经？一对？大爆炸说话？ in 21:30 ?Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and earth was once joined together (as one unit of creation) before We clove them asunder?.在21:30？不要不信看到了天地曾联手（作为一个创作单位），然后我们丁香他们支离破碎？。
In 1929, Edwin Hubble with the aid of a giant telescope discovered that the galaxies were moving further and further from the earth. 1929年，埃德温与一个巨大的望远镜发现，星系移动进一步从地上哈勃进一步援助。 Later some other scientists discovered that the galaxies were also moving further from one another.后来其他一些科学家发现，星系也进一步从彼此感动。 This proved that the universe is not stable but it is steadily expanding.这证明宇宙是不是稳定，但它正在稳步扩大。 Stephen Hawkins in his book ?A brief斯蒂芬霍金斯在他的书？简要 history历史 of time?时间？ mentioned:提到：

?The discovery that the universe was expanding was one of the greatest intellectual revolutions of the 20th century?. ？这一发现，宇宙正在膨胀是20世纪最伟大的智慧革命之一？。

1400 years ago, before man even learnt how to build a telescope, the Qur?an mentions in 51:47 ?For it is We who created the universe, which is steadily expanding?. 1400年以前，在人甚至学会了如何建立一个望远镜，古兰经？一提到在51:47？因为这是我们谁创造了宇宙，这是不断扩大？。 If the universe is expanding with time then it means if we go back in time, the universe would be shrinking to a point of zero matter.如果宇宙是时间，然后扩大它意味着，如果我们回到过去，宇宙将收缩到零的一个问题点。 Thus the universe must have been created from nothing; no matter, no time and no space!因此，宇宙一定是从虚无中产生，没有问题，没有时间和空间！ This also proofs that the universe didn?t exist by itself but was created by a Creator God.这也证明，宇宙业内观察家吨存在本身，而是由一个造物主天主的创造。 The Qur?an also mentions this fact in 6:101 ?Allah is the originator of heavens and earth?.古兰经？一也提到了这一点其实在6:101？真主是天地的发端？。 Science does not reject the existence of God the Creator of the universe but it rejects the models of gods (demigods).科学并不反对上帝存在的宇宙的创造者，但它拒绝神（半神的模型）。 Translated in Arabic, it will read ?La ilaha Ilallah?在阿拉伯语翻译，它会读？拉ilaha Ilallah？ which means ?There is no god but Allah!?这是什么意思？有没有上帝，只有真主！？

For a long time European philosophers and scientist believed in the Geocentric concept, ie: the earth is in the centre of the universe and every thing in the universe including our sun moved around it.长期以来，在欧洲的哲学家认为地心的概念，即科学家：地球是宇宙的中心，每一个宇宙的东西，包括我们的太阳周围的动议。 In 1512, Nicholas Copernicus put forward his Heliocentric Theory of Planetary Movement, ie; the sun is motionless in the centre of our solar system and the planets moved around it. 1512年，尼古拉斯哥白尼提出了他的行星运动，即心说，太阳是我们太阳系的中心静止和移动的行星围绕它。

Today we know as a fact that the sun is not motionless but it also moves in its orbit around the centre of our Milky Way galaxy at the speed of 150 miles per second (720 000 Km per hour).今天，我们知道作为一个事实，太阳是静止的，但它也不会在自己的轨道移动围绕我们的银河系在150每秒（720公里每小时000英里的速度中心）。 It takes about 200 million years for the sun to complete one orbit.它需要大约2亿年的太阳完成一个轨道。 The Qur?an mentions in 36:40 ?It is not permitted for the sun to catch up with moon, nor can the night outstrip the day, each (just) swims along in its own orbit (according to law)?.古兰经？一提到在36:40？这是不容许的太阳与月亮追上了，晚上也不能超过一天，每一个（只）游泳沿着自己的轨道中（依法）？。

It was only a few decades ago that we discovered the sun too rotates around its axes which takes about 25 days to complete one rotation.这只是一个几十年前，我们也发现了太阳围绕其旋转轴需时约25天完成一轮换。 Even this fact is also mentioned in the Qur?an in 21:33 ?It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all swims along its rounded course?.即使是这样一个事实中也提到古兰经？在21:33？这是谁创造了他当天晚上，太阳和月亮，沿着圆形当然，所有的游泳？。 The Arabic word used for ?swim?阿拉伯语词用的？游泳吗？ is ?yasbahun?是什么？yasbahun？ which is derived from the word ?sabaha?这是来自这个词？展布？ which means ?motion from a moving body?.这是什么意思？从一个移动的物体运动？。

Previously mankind thought the earth was flat.以前人类认为地球是平的。 They were afraid to sail too far lest they will reach the edge and fall.他们害怕航行太远，否则他们将达到边缘和下降。 The first person to sail around the world was Sir Francis Drake in 1597.航行的第一人是在世界各地，1597年弗朗西斯德雷克爵士。 Only then people knew that the world was spherical.只有这样，人们知道地球是球形。

1400 years ago, when the whole world thought that the earth was flat, the Qur?an gave the spherical description of the earth in several verses. 1400年以前，当整个世界认为地球是平的，在古兰经？1给出了几个诗句地球球形说明。 In 31:29 ?Allah merges night into day and He merges day into night?.在31:29？真主合并到一天晚上和他合并到晚一天？。 Merging means that the night slowly and gradually changes into day and vice versa.合并意味着，夜慢慢地，逐渐形成一天的变化，反之亦然。 This is only possible if the earth was spherical because if the earth was flat, there will be a sudden change from night to day.这是唯一可能的，如果地球是球形的，因为如果地球是平的，将有来自一天晚上突然改变。

Furthermore in 39:5 “He makes the night overlap the day and the day overlap the night”.此外，在39:5“他使白天和晚上重叠一天重叠之夜”。 The Arabic word used here is “ kawara ” meaning to overlap or to coil, ie to coil a turban indicating the earth is spherical.阿拉伯语词用在这里是“ 瓦力 ”的含义重叠或线圈，线圈头巾即表明地球是球形。

The exact shape of earth is mentioned in 79:30 “and He had made the earth egg-shaped”.在地球的确切形状提到79:30“和他提出了地球鸡蛋形”。 The Arabic word used here is ?dahaha?阿拉伯语词用在这里是什么？dahaha？ which comes from the root word ?duhiya?其中来自根词？duhiya？ meaning ostrich egg.鸵鸟蛋的意思。 The earth is not perfectly spherical like a ball but it is little flat on the poles and slightly bulging in the centre.地球是不完全像一个球，但它是球形的小单位两极稍隆起的中心。 It is geospherical just like the shape of an ostrich egg.这是geospherical就像一个鸵鸟蛋的形状。

Geologists tell us today that the radius of the earth is 3750 miles and the outer solid crust is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles.地质学家告诉我们，今天地球的半径是三千七百五十零英里和外固体地壳很薄，范围从1到30英里。 The deeper layers are hot and fluid.更深层次的是热和流体。 The earth is just like an egg which has a thin layer of solid shell on outside and inside is fluid.地球就像一个鸡蛋有一个坚实的外壳和外里面是薄薄的一层液体。 The earth spins around it axes at a speed of more than 1000 miles/hour.地球围绕它旋转在超过1000英里/小时的速度轴。 Imagine if we spin the egg at the speed of only 100 miles/hour, what will happen?试想一下，如果我们只在旋转100英里/小时的速度鸡蛋，会发生什么事？ The egg could not survive the pressure and it will explode.鸡蛋无法生存的压力，并会爆炸。 The earth too could not have survived if not for the fact that the mountains have been stabilizing the earth as well as acting as pegs which holds the earth crust together.地球也不可能存活如果不是事实，即山区已稳定地以及作为挂钩持有地壳在一起。

The Qur?an mentions about the mountains giving stability to earth in 21:31 ?and We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them?.古兰经？一提到关于山区的稳定，在21:31到地球呢，我们已经在地球上站立不稳的群山，以免它应该与他们握手？。 The Qur?an also mentions about the function of mountains as pegs in 78:6-7 ?have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, and the mountains as pegs??古兰经？一对山功能也提到在78:6-7挂钩？我们没有作出一个广阔的大地，山作为挂钩？？

The Qur?an says in 21:30 ?We made from water every living thing?.古兰经？在21:30说？我们每一个活着的水制成的东西吗？。 Today with the help of advanced science equipments we come to know that cytoplasm, the basic substance in cell is made of 80% water.随着先进科学设备来帮助我们今天知道，细胞质，细胞中的基本物质是由80％的水。 Research also has shown that most organisms contain 50% – 90% water.研究还表明，多数生物含有50％ - 90％的水。 Every living thing needs water for its existence.每一个生命的东西需要它的存在水。 Who could have known this fact 1400 years ago and that too in the desert of Arabia?谁能够知道1400年以前的这个事实，也是在阿拉伯的沙漠？

A group of Arab students collected all the verses in the Qur?an related to embryology, translated them into English and presented to Prof. (Dr) Keith Moore, who was the Professor of embryology and the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy in University of Toronto, Canada.一个收集所有的古兰经经文的阿拉伯学生？对胚胎学相关，翻译成英语，并提交给教授（博士）基思穆尔，谁是在大学教授的胚胎学和解剖学系系主任加拿大多伦多。 Presently he is one of the highest authorities in the field of embryology.目前他是最高当局的胚胎中的一个领域。 After carefully examining those verses, he said most of the verses from the Qur?an on embryology were in perfect conformity with modern discoveries in the field of embryology.在仔细研究这些经文，他说，对胚胎从古兰经的经文是什么？与胚胎学领域中的发现，完全符合现代的。

However there were few verses which he could not comment as science has not reach to that level.不过有几句诗，他不能作为科学的评论并没有达到这一水平。 One such verse was from 96:1-2 ?Proclaim!一个这样的诗句是从96:1-2？宣告！ In the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, who created man out of alaq?.在你的主与庇佑，谁创造了人类走出阿莱格干河叫什么名字？。 The Arabic word ?alaq?阿拉伯字？阿莱格干河？ means clot of congealed blood or something that clings or leech like substance.是指血液凝结或一些血栓147或类似物质水蛭。 Prof Keith Moore at that time didn?t know whether the embryo at initial stage looks like a leech.穆尔教授基思当时业内观察家吨知道是否在初始阶段，胚胎看起来像水蛭。 He took a diagram of leech and studied the embryo under a very powerful microscope.他采取了水蛭图和研究一个非常强大的显微镜下的胚胎。 He was astonished at the striking resemblance between the two.他惊讶于两者之间的惊人的相似之处。

In 1981 during the 7th Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Dr Moore said ?it is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. 1981年在第七届医学会议在沙特阿拉伯达曼，摩尔博士说？很明显，我认为这些言论必定是从上帝或真主穆罕默德，因为几乎所有这些知识并没有发现，直到后来许多世纪。 This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a Messenger of God?.这证明了这穆罕默德一定是上帝的使者？。

The embryonic stages is accurately mentioned in the Qur?an in 23:14 ?Then We made the sperm into ?alaqah?萌芽阶段，是准确地提到在古兰经？在23:14？那么我们所取得的精子进入？alaqah？ (a clot of congealed blood), then We made into ?mudghah? （一血块凝结），然后我们做成？mudghah？ (foetus lump), this mudghah is transformed into ?izam? （胎块），这mudghah转化为？izam？ (bones) and cloth it with ?lahm? （骨）和布呢？拉姆？ (flesh)?. （肉）？。

In this verse Allah states that the sperm is made into ?alaqah?真主在这节经文的精子制成国家？alaqah？ (clot of congealed blood or something that clings or leech like substance). （血液的凝结或一些血栓147或类似物质水蛭）。 It is scientifically accepted that the embryo in initial stage looks like a leech, also looks like a clot of congealed blood and it also clings to the wall of uterus.这是科学界公认的，在初始阶段，胚胎看起来像水蛭，也看起来像一个凝结血块，也执着于子宫壁。 Then it is made into mudghah (foetus lump) and transformed into ?izam?然后制成mudghah（胎块）中，转化？izam？ (bones) and clothed with ?lahm? （骨）和衣服呢？拉姆？ (flesh or muscles). （肉体或肌肉）。 These stages are in perfect agreement with modern scientific discoveries!这些阶段是与现代科学发现完美的协议！

We can go on and on but time does not permit me to do so.我们可以继续下去，但时间不允许我这样做。 If you have any questions, do let me know and I will do my level best to answer them.如果您有任何问题，请让我知道，我会尽我所能回答。

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The Qur?an says in 4:82 ?Do they not consider the Qur?an (with care)?古兰经？一说，在4:82？难道他们不考虑古兰经？1（小心）？ Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.?如果是从其他已比上帝，他们一定会发现其中有许多差异。？ For a scripture to claim that it is from a divine source there could not have been even a single discrepancy or contradiction in it.对于经文声称它从一个神圣的来源是有可能不会有，即使在这一个分歧或矛盾。 There are more than 1000 verses in the Qur?an that touches on science.有超过1000的古兰经经文？一，涉及科学。 About 80% of them have been proven to be correct and are in perfect agreement with modern science.大约80％的人已被证明是正确的，与现代科学完美的吻合。 The balance 20% cannot be proven to be correct or incorrect because modern science has not reached the level of the Qur?an! 20％的平衡不能被证明是正确的或不正确，因为现代科学还没有达到古兰经水平？一！

There is not even a single verse of the Qur?an that goes against established scientific facts.甚至没有一个单一的古兰经经文？一，对既定的科学事实的。 On the contrary the Qur?an which was revealed 1400 years ago contains profound scientific facts that were yet to be discovered by humankind centuries later.相反的古兰经？1这是1400年以前被发现含有深刻的尚未被人类发现的百年以后的科学事实。

Any person who claims that he / she is logical, rational, scientific and honest will have no other choice but to admit that the Qur?an is the word of Almighty God!任何人谁声称，他/她是合乎逻辑的，理性，科学和诚实就没有别的选择，只能承认古兰经？一个是全能的上帝的话！ If the Qur?an is not the word of God, then you tell me who else could have written it 1400 years ago.如果古兰经？一个不是神的话，那么你告诉我还有谁可以写1400年以前它。

Some allege that the Qur?an must have been written by Prophet Muhammad with the help of other people.有人说：古兰经？1，必须是被先知穆罕默德的书面与其他人的帮助。 To disprove this allegation it is enough to say that it was impossible for any single human being at that time to have their own knowledge on all the scientific facts mentioned above.为了驳斥这一指控是足够说，这是任何一个人当时几乎无法对上述所有科学事实自己的知识。

Others may allege that the Qur?an have been copied from earlier scriptures.其他人可能声称，古兰经？已经从早期的经典复制。 The point to note here is that there is not a single scripture of the past that mentions these scientific facts with such accuracy.这里要注意的一点是，没有一个提到的，过去这种单一的准确性这些科学事实经文。 On the contrary you will find many errors and contradictions in them.相反你会发现在他们的许多错误和矛盾。

There have also been claims that the Qur?an was written by Satan.也有人称，？一个被撒旦书面古兰经。 Then why the Qur?an says in 4:119 ?Whoever, forsaking God, takes Satan for a friend, has of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest?.那么为什么古兰经？一说，在4:119？谁，抛弃上帝，撒旦需要一个朋友，一个担保人遭受了损失，是体现？。 In 24:21 “follow not Satan?s footsteps, if any will follow the footsteps of Satan, he will (but) command what is shameful and wrong”.在24:21“不要效法撒旦？脚步，如有将按照撒旦的脚步，他将（但）命令是什么可耻的错误”。 If Satan was the author of Qur?an, why would the Satan condemn itself?如果撒旦是古兰经的作者？一，为什么会谴责自己的撒旦？

Tonight when you go home, you owe yourself at least to ponder on this truth.今晚，当你回家，你欠你自己至少要深思这个道理。 The Qur?an says in 2:256 “truth stands out clear from falsehood” and in 17:81 “truth has arrived and falsehood perished; for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish”.古兰经？一说，在2:256的“真脱颖而出清楚谎言”，并在17:81“真理与谬误已经到来丧生;的谎言是（其性质）必将灭亡”。

Thank you.谢谢。

Notes: 注释：

The Qur?an also speaks on many other scientific facts such as:古兰经？也谈了很多其他诸如科学事实：

• 2:29 – 7 levels of atmosphere 2:29 - 7气氛水平
• 13:2 – Skies are without pillars/support (people of that time thought the mountains supported the skies) 13:2 - 天空没有支柱是/支持（当时人们认为山支持天空）
• 75:4 – Uniqueness of fingerprints 75:4 - 指纹的唯一性