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Recently the world's most maladroit missionaries have allowed最近,世界上最笨拙传教士容许 an impromptu piece 1即兴作品 to be published in response to Shabbir Ally's views on Surah al-Anbiyaa: 30.将刊登在回应Shabbir盟友的意见Surah基地Anbiyaa:30。 Personally I do believe that Shabbir's interpretation is wrong, albeit he was not the first Muslim to proffer such a cosmological hypothesis on this particular Holy Ayaah.我个人认为,Shabbir的解释是错误的,尽管他不是第一位穆斯林向他们提供关于这项神圣Ayaah这样的宇宙学假说。 However I feel that a two-fold response is requisite.但我觉得,一个2倍的反应是必要的。 I shall seek to demonstrate:我会设法证明:

(1) that Andrew Vargo's claims on classical Big Bang cosmology are blatantly erroneous and are the result of paramount nescience, and; (1)大爆炸宇宙论古典安德鲁瓦戈的说法是错误的,是公然最懵懂的结果,;
(2) I shall proffer a more appropiate interpretation on the Holy Ayaah in question. (2)我会毫无顾忌的问题就在圣Ayaah更合适的解释。

Let us begin with my interpretation of the Holy Ayaah; Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa says:让我们开始与我Ayaah解释圣灵;真主萨巴罕华Ta'alaa说:

“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation), before We clove them asunder?” “不要不信道看到,天地人结合在一起(作为一个创作单位),在我们丁香他们支离破碎?”

The important point in this Holy Ayaah is that the Arabic context refers to the universe and the earth as one ; “ ratq ” means “mixed or blended” so ratq describes the initial first materials that formed the entire universe; including the earth, and states clearly that they were mixed or blended. 圣Ayaah重要的一点是,在这方面是指以阿拉伯语宇宙和地球的一个 ,“ratq”是指“混合或混合”等ratq描述整个宇宙最初的第一材料,包括在地球上形成的,各国显然,他们混合或混合。 In the very incipient proviso's of the universe; the heavens aggrandized and cooled.在非常早期限制性条款的宇宙,天地,吉首,怀化和冷却。 Particles of matter and anti-matter originated for minuscular periods of time; however the temperature would not sustain them for long.物质和反物质的粒子的起源时间minuscular时期,但温度不会维持很短。 The electromagnetic and weak interaction were then cleaved; now almost all of the anti-matter and matter was obliterated in this cleaving, except the minute amount that endured.电磁和弱相互作用然后切割,现在几乎所有的反物质和物质被抹煞这裂解除分钟数额忍受。

Thus the first elements came about; and all this came to pass in around three minutes after the creation of time itself.因此,第一个元素的出现,以及所有这一切来在三分钟左右的时间后,通过自身创造。 These elements just as Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa stated would ultimately form the physical constitution of our universe; including the earth. 华Ta'alaa这些元素就像真主萨巴罕表示,最终形成了我们的宇宙物理宪法,包括地球。 The Holy Quran古兰经 describes I think an evolution of the earth fro the very initial stages of the universes existence; that is the only way the Holy Ayaah can in my opinion be interpreted due to the context of the word employed.描述我认为是地球演化的宇宙往返存在非常初步的阶段,这是唯一的出路圣Ayaah在我看来是可以理解由于就业文意。 In fact Abdallah Yusuf Ali; who did not have the same knowledge nor resources that I have available at the present time, still wrote in his commentary on the Holy Ayaah in question: “The evolution of the ordered worlds as we see them is hinted at.” Anyone familiar with the present-day data knows that the nascent properties in the early universe are what makes up the contents of our universe today, so we can look at the beginning of the universe as the earliest point of the earth's existence as it over time evolved by the Will of Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa ; the earth itself was, quite candidly created from elementary cosmic gas.事实上阿卜杜拉优素福阿里,谁不具有相同的知识,也没有资源,我有时间可在目前,仍写在他的问题的评论对Ayaah在圣说:“世界的演变,我们看到的有序暗示他们是在。“任何数据熟悉当今知道,早期宇宙初生的性质是什么构成了我们宇宙的内容,今天,我们可以看看它开始时的宇宙,地球作为最早点的存在作为在时间的演变萨巴罕Ta'alaa由真主的意志;地球本身,很坦率地从小学创造宇宙气体。

As I stated in my response to FTM's objections; the same way if I show my favorite picture of my mother and I you could object and say I am nowhere to be seen and that she is holding a baby; the objection is moot for that was me in the initial stages of my life and I grew over time by the Grace of Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa .正如我在我的回应FTM的的反对,同样的方式,如果我告诉我的妈妈最喜欢的图片和我对你可以反对,说我无处可看,她是抱着婴儿;反对为该模拟活动我在我生命中最初的阶段,我长大了Ta'alaa时间真主的恩典萨巴罕

Now the démodé libel launched on Shabbir's hypothesis is surely worthy of a response; because it exposes Answering现在德莫德诽谤假说推出Shabbir的反应是值得肯定的,因为它暴露回答 Islam 伊斯兰教 's absolute denseness to modern cosmology.的绝对密集的现代宇宙学。 You see, to my absolute astonishment a one Andrew Vargo actually tries to challenge the Big Bang theory.你看,我绝对惊讶一个安德鲁瓦戈实际上试图挑战宇宙大爆炸理论。 Based upon the most primitive of quondam scientific resources, he in his mendacious prattle gives us an abundance of reasons for suspecting that the Answering Islam team are not dexterous enough to offer a serious challenge to the Din ul Haq .基于最原始的资源库翁达姆科学,在他的虚假闲话我们给他一个哈克丰富UL认证的理由怀疑该回答伊斯兰教队并不灵巧,足以提供一个严重挑战 Vargo should not have ran his lips on such a enigmatic subject especially due to his severe ignorance to the topic; alas we can forgive the youngster for he probably just googled something along the lines of “how to disprove the most empirically verified model in cosmology to date”.瓦戈不应该有这样一个高深莫测的运行主体特别是由于他的严重无知的专题他的嘴唇,很可惜,我们可以原谅,因为他可能只是童GOOGLE上搜索东西线沿线的“如何在宇宙论的反驳大多数实证模型验证日期“。

Anyway; he starts off by quoting Sir Fred Hoyle (who by the way, received an award for the most incorrect predictions in cosmology), Vargo then attempts to discredit the evidence for the Big Bang theory by simply rehashing criticism that was proposed aeons ago and received sufficient answers through observational averment.不管怎样,他一开始便引用爵士弗雷德霍伊尔(谁的方式,收到了在宇宙学中最不正确的预测奖),然后试图诋毁瓦戈只需再次提出批评,是aeons前提出并为宇宙大爆炸理论的证据通过观测声言收到足够的答案。

Argument One: CBR, For or Against the Standard Model? 论据一:社区康复,支持或反对的标准模型?

Anon from as early as 1941 cosmic background radiation (CBR) was detected although at that point in time not with intent even though such detection was desideratum.早在1941年从宇宙背景辐射(CBR)的检测,虽然别名,在那时,意图不点即使这种检测寄望最大。 Now you see; interstellar gas clouds in perpetuum subsume atoms and molecules.现在你看到,在原子和分子的Perpetuum公司归星际气体云。 The spectra of molecules are much more labyrinthine, owing to the fact that molecules as an entity can circumvolve and electrons surge and leap around, however the important point is that molecules can be identified by their spectra. It was WS Adams who first noted the metastasis of cyanogen within a molecular cloud situated betwixt Zeta Ophiuchus and the earth. From the appurtenant data, A. Mckellar concluded that a single idiosyncratic line in the spectrum of cyanogen had no palpable explication unless of course the molecules were being agitated by photons with an estimated temperature of approximately 2.3 K.分子光谱更为错综复杂,由于这一事实,即围绕分子作为一个整体可以circumvolve和电子激增和飞跃,但很重要的一点是,分子光谱可以发现他们。 这是亚当斯是谁首先注意到的转移的氰和地球内部的分子云位于中间泽塔蛇夫座。从从属的数据,得出的结论是甲麦凯勒一个奇特的氰线谱中已经解释当然,除非分子光子被激动的,估计没有明显温度约为2.3光

Later on in 1965 George Field, NJ Woolf and IS Shklovsky came to realize the paramountcy of the aforementioned observation, and in 1993 I. Hawkin, DM Meyer and KC Roth took spectra of cyanogen in diversified clouds from amidst the more proximate stars and the earth purposively seeking out the CBR titillation.后来在1965年乔治菲尔德,新泽西州伍尔夫和IS什克洛夫斯基来实现上述的观察至上,并于1993年一,霍金,糖尿病迈耶和KC罗斯参加了从云层中多元化的氰谱更近因恒星和地球有目的地寻找的CBR的搔痒。 They found a temperature of 2.729 K which was congruous with the other older measurements; however COBE ie the Cosmic Background Explorer laid the argument to rest by duteously measuring the temperature to be 2.725 K. From the beginning of the hypothesis of an expanding universe the standard big bang model predicted this exact background radiation, which is just an exemplification of the hot dense era of our wonderful universes bodacious past.他们发现了2.729 k该是与其他年纪较大的温度测量谐,但科贝即宇宙背景探测奠定了休息duteously参数测量温度是从一个膨胀的宇宙开始时的标准假设2.725光大爆炸模型预言这一确切的背景辐射,这只是一个炎热的bodacious过去美好的宇宙密集时代例证。 So Vargo's first nonsensical claims on this matter have now been denuded as the ad hoc assertions that they were and always will remain, we cognize the fact that the big bang model predicted the CBR within a mathematical certainty; reality is. This because the Big Bang model presages that early on the matter density was immense as was the temperature and over time the universe expanded and cooled. To quote Professor John F. Hawley and Katherine A. Holcomb, “…it tells us immediately that the universe was once very much hotter than it is today, which by itself is convincing evidence for the hot big bang.”所以瓦戈的第一此事不合理的索赔要求现已。光秃秃的专案断言,他们始终不会改变,我们认知一个事实,即大爆炸模型预言数学的CBR在确定性;现实是,这是因为宇宙大爆炸模型预示着早期的物质密度是巨大的,是在一段时间内温度和宇宙的膨胀和冷却。举教授约翰F霍利和凯瑟琳答霍尔库姆,“...它告诉我们,宇宙立即曾经非常热比现在,这本身就是令人信服的热大爆炸的证据。“ 1

Vargo continues on apropos due to his impetuosity;瓦戈继续进行中肯由于他的急躁情绪;

    The problem with using the CBR as proof of the “Big Bang” is that CBR is uniform throughout the Universe…与使用作为“大爆炸”是CBR的是整个宇宙的统一证明CBR的问题...

Is this guy kidding me? That is half of the argument for the Big Bang, the Robertson-Walker metric describes a homogeneous and isotropic space time. The fact that the universe is as the metric elucidates, was portended in the Big Bang model before it was confirmed.这家伙跟我开玩笑吧? 这是度量一半沃克的说法为宇宙大爆炸时,罗伯逊,描述了一个均匀和各向同性的空间时间。事实上,宇宙是作为度量阐发,是预示模型在宇宙大爆炸之前得到了确认。 Vargo goes on to argue that the matter in the universe is not uniformed or as I understand him, evenly distributed.瓦戈接着认为,宇宙中的物质是不穿制服,或我了解他,分布均匀。 This is a preposterous claim; everyone knows that the universe has evenly distributed matter in large scales of super clusters. Furthermore; the matter density was also prognosticated (keeping in mind that there is non-luminous matter)and attested, additionally the necessitated proportionate value of the critical density corresponds to around 10 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter of space, thus the veritably existing matter successfully fulfill the needs of the standard Big Bang model hence the matter in our universe is precisely balanced and uniformed as predicted by the standard model.这是一个荒谬的要求,每个人都知道宇宙物质均匀分布的集群超级大尺度。此外,该物质的密度也预测式(牢记在有不发光的物质)和证明,另外价值相称的必要对应的临界密度大约每10个氢原子的空间立方米,从而veritably现有问题圆满完成了标准的大爆炸模型的需要,因此在我们宇宙的物质平衡和军警正按标准模型预言。

To put it in a layman's term for Vargo: matter is uniformly distributed throughout the universe as well as concentrated in some places to a much higher extent than our galaxy.要放在一个门外汉对瓦戈来看,它:物质是均匀以及在一些地方集中到一个比我们高得多的程度星系宇宙分发。 Vargo did not offer any alternative explanation for the CBR's existence, however since I am kind guy I will do it for him Insha'Allah.瓦戈并没有提供任何有关社区康复的存在另一种解释,但是因为我很亲切的家伙,我会为他做这Insha'Allah。 The surrogated theory is that the radiation comes from a background of gaseous and stellar exudations.该代办理论认为辐射的气体和恒星渗出背景下应运而生。 But now its time for the nail in Vargo's argumentations emblematic coffin; COBE also confirmed that the radiation had to emanate from the universe itself, due to “the fidelity of the CBR to a blackbody spectrum”.但现在它在瓦戈的时间论证钉棺材象征;科贝还证实,辐射不得不源自宇宙本身,因为“该CBR的保真度为黑体谱”。 Thus, the CBR has to be the radiation remnant of the big bang; there is quite simply no other option to this fact and hence there is just no real alternative to the Big Bang.因此,社区康复必须是大爆炸的残余辐射,有不少根本没有其他选择了这一点,因此他们就是没有真正的替代宇宙大爆炸。 2 2 I could just leave it at that because the aforementioned is undisputed empirical evidence for the Big Bang model.我可以只停留在这一点是无可争议的,因为上述的大爆炸模型的实证证据。 However, because I do not want to make it easy for the missionaries to cop out of this hilarious blunder I will push onwards and address Vargo's other two arguments against the standard model of the universe as taught in universities worldwide.但是,因为我不想让您轻松的传教士警察离开这个热闹的错误,我会起推动解决对宇宙标准模型瓦戈的其他两个参数作为全球大学教授。

Argument Two: The Amount of Helium Within the Universe, For or Against the Standard Model? 论据二:宇宙氦金额内,支持或反对的标准模型?

I find it to be phenomenal how Vargo has failed to quote a book from after the year 1994; considering how daedal our wondrous field of cosmology is and how fast the consensus changes, this must be noted as one of Vargo's major fallacies, ie failing to keep up with cosmological advancement.我觉得它是惊人如何瓦戈没有报价后,1994年,考虑如何千变万化的宇宙学奇妙领域是如何快速的共识变化,这一点必须指出,作为瓦戈的重大谬误之一,即没有一本书跟上宇宙进步。 Learn from experience, my friend.从经验中学习,我的朋友。

Now he relegates us to a paper written by Alan Guth, however it is clear that the paper he refers us to has absolutely nothing to do with the helium problem. The very name of the paper, “A Possible Solution to the Horizon and Flatness Problem” clearly shows that the paper was on what some call “the causality riddle”; the lack of any natural explanation for the universe's smoothness, albeit for theists this is no problem, and the paper was also trying to tackle the geometric idiosyncrasy of the universe once again a pseudo-problem for us theists.现在,他遇事我们阿兰古斯由一纸写的,但很显然, 他指的文件我们已经完全没有问题的氦。绿皮这个名字的,“一个可能的解决方案,以豪华和平坦度问题“清楚地表明,该文件是对有些所谓的”因果关系之谜“;的有神论者缺乏对宇宙的任何自然的解释为平滑的,尽管这是没有问题的,所以这份文件还试图解决宇宙的几何特质的再次是我们的一个伪问题有神论者。

Now by the 1950's the amount of helium was explained, but granted there was indeed an original gradiose exigency demanding an explanation on the vast amount of helium within the universe. 1950年由现在的氦量为解释,但确有一批原gradiose紧急要求在宇宙中就大量的氦解释。 Stars as everyone should know progenerate helium, however the Big Bang actualized most of the helium present in our universe today and then the rest was created by stellar paroxysm.明星大家都应该知道progenerate氦, 然而现实化的宇宙大爆炸最氦在我们今天在座的 ,然后把剩余的发作造成的恒星。 Furthermore helium has actually gone a long way to poise the big bang model, for the aggregated quantity of helium can be used so as to confirm the amount of species of neutrinos.此外氦实际上去氦聚集数量很长的稳重的大爆炸模型,可用于以确认中微子物种数量。 Theoretical data from the big bang model predicted the existence of three species of neutrinos, measurements of the amount of helium coupled with amazing amounts of deuterium as well as lithium asseverate that there are three species of neutrino's; so we now have two empirical positive predications of the standard model.从大爆炸模型的理论数据,预测了三种中微子物种的生存,对有惊人数量的氘和锂耦合氦量测断言有三种中微子的,所以我们现在有两个实证积极预报作物种标准模型。

Argument Three: The Redshift, For or Against the Standard Model? 论据三:红移,支持或反对的标准模型?

Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa says: Waalssamaa banaynaha bi-aydin wa-inna lamoosioona , meaning, “And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it.” (Surah Adh-Dhariyat, Holy Ayaah 47)真主萨巴罕华Ta'alaa说:Waalssamaa banaynaha双艾登桦因娜lamoosioona,意义,“它是我们究竟是谁建造了天堂与可能,并能众志成城,这是我们谁是稳步扩大它。”(Surah乙醇脱氢酶, Dhariyat,圣Ayaah 47)

It is patently lucid that Vargo has not even an infinitesimal clue as to what a cosmic red shift is let alone whether or not they affirm or negate the standard Big Bang model.这显然是清醒的瓦戈甚至还没有一个以什么是宇宙红移是无限小的线索,更遑论他们是否肯定或否定的标准大爆炸模型。 Observational evidence testifies to the fact that the universe is steadily expanding, so if a cosmic source is approaching an observer he/she will see a “blueshift”; that is when light waves are agglomerated and are thus tousled to more extensive frequencies.观测证据证明这一事实,即宇宙是稳步扩大,因此,如果宇宙的来源是接近一个观察员,他/她会看到一个“蓝移”,即是当光波的团聚,因而蓬乱到更广泛的频率。 Hence if the source is moving away from the observer light waves shift to lower frequencies thus resulting in what we call a “redshift”. Edwin Hubble measured the redshift in the light from remote galaxies; his measurements proved that the universe is indeed enlarging.因此,如果来源是移动波远离观察者光转变为较低频率从而哈勃造成所谓的“红移”。 埃德温测量星系红移在遥控器上的光线,他的测量证明,宇宙确实扩大。 3 3 Vargo preys on an error of Edwin Hubble that has since been rectified in light of cosmological advancement.埃德温哈勃太空望远镜上的错误已经被宇宙中的地位轻纠正瓦戈猎物。

Hubble interpreted the extragalactic red shift in terms of the Doppler shift, “however, the red shift is caused by the relativistic expansio of the universe itself, but this was not understood at the time that Hubble and Humason were compiling their data..”哈勃解释条款的多普勒频移的银河系外的红移,“不过,红移是由宇宙相对论及范围本身造成的,但当时并没有理解,哈勃和赫马森汇编了他们的数据..” 4 4 The measurement problems Vargo mentions are due to the those who did the measuring, to quote瓦戈提到的计量问题是由于这些谁做了测量,引用 Christianity基督教 's most prominent philosopher Dr. William Lane Craig, “…the anomalous red-shifts; these have been around for a long time, and they continue to be cleared up as better and better measurements are made of the objects that have these shifts.”历史上最杰出的哲学家威廉博士克雷格巷“...异常红移,这些已经存在了很长的时间,更好的和更好的测量,他们继续被清理的对象是有这些变化的。 “

Conclusions 结论

I genuinely hope you are reading this, Mr. Vargo, and I do not want you to be abashed by the aforementioned; cosmology is a wonderful field, alhamdulillah.我真诚希望你读这,瓦戈先生,我不想让你受到上述窘迫;宇宙学是一个美好的领域,alhamdulillah。 However, my friend, you must put in the hard yards.不过,我的朋友,你必须把硬码。 I suggest you purchase upgraded text books and always make it a point to keep up with the latest cosmological data, Insha'Allah.我建议你购买课本和升级始终使它成为一个点,以配合最新宇宙数据,Insha'Allah起来。 Now bethinking on my neoteric interpretation of Surah al-Anbiyaa Holy Ayaah 30 the rest of Vargo's criticism falls apart; except a few last dash's of aberrant, senseless and unadulterated falsehood. First of all Vargo completely prevaricates the Islamic view of creation; allow me to outline the account real quick Insha'Allah.现在批评 bethinking对瓦戈是近代解释Surah基地Anbiyaa 圣地 Ayaah 30日的休息分崩离析,除了少数最后冲刺的异常,毫无意义和十足的谎言。瓦戈首先完全推诿的作法是建立伊斯兰的看法;请允许我纲要的帐户真正快速Insha'Allah。

1. 1。 Creation of the universe from nothing.从虚无中创造的宇宙。 (Surah al Anaam, Holy Ayaah 101) (Surah人安阿姆,圣Ayaah 101)
2. 2。 The heavens and the earth were mixed or blended in the inceptive conditions of the universe.天空和大地被混合或混合在宇宙的开端条件。 This is after the universe's initial instant of creation (Surah al-Anbiyaa, Holy Ayaah 30)这之后,宇宙的创造最初瞬间(Surah基地Anbiyaa,是神圣Ayaah 30)
3. 3。 “Fatq” the cleaving asunder of the electromagnetic and weak interaction; which then annihilated all of the anti-matter as well as most of the matter, except a small remnant thus the first elements came about. “Fatq”的电磁和弱相互作用切割,各行其是;而当时歼灭的反物质,以及所有的问题最多,除了一小部分残余从而首次来的。 ( Ibid. )同上
4. 4。 The universe remains nothing but vapor ie gaseous elements as the earth is created.宇宙仍然只是水蒸气即作为地球气体元素的创建。 (Surah Fussilat, Holy Ayaats 9-12) (Surah Fussilat,圣Ayaats 9-12)
5. 5。 Stars are beautified and the rest of the cosmos continue to change by the Will of Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa.星星美化和宇宙的其余部分继续改变真主的萨巴罕华Ta'alaa意志。 (Surah al Imran, Holy Ayaah 109) (Surah人伊姆兰,圣Ayaah 109)

And yes stars can exist in the gaseous stage; the Arabic word used for smoke in the Holy Ayaah is “dukhan” which can mean “smoke”, “mist” or “vapor”.是的恒星存在于气态舞台,阿拉伯字在圣Ayaah烟用的是“杜汉”这可能意味着“烟”,“雾”或“气”。 Smoke in classical semantics can mean flying particles as well as a mist or vapor according to the Macquarie dictionary.在古典语义烟雾可能意味着飞行颗粒以及雾或蒸气根据麦格理字典。 Mist can mean a cloud of particles resembling a fog or a cloud like entity, and vapor is just a substance in the gaseous state.米斯特可能意味着一个类似这样的一个实体或雾云粒子云和水汽只是在气态物质。 All of which can describe the universes initial conditions after baryogenesis, inflation (exponential increase in R), the fundamental particles, and the cleaving asunder of the electromagnetic and weak interaction.这一切都可以描述宇宙的初始条件后baryogenesis,通货膨胀(在R指数增加),基本的粒子,以及电磁和弱相互作用裂解四分五裂。 “All stars are huge balls of gas, mostly hydrogen held together by gravity.” “所有的星星是巨大的气体球,主要是氢由重力在一起。” 5 5

Keeping in mind that gravity is merely a dynamism and is in fact the weakest of the four fundamental forces and it is carried by a purely hypothetical massless boson “the graviton, which has not yet been detected.请记住,仅仅是一个充满活力的严重性,事实上是四种基本力最弱的,这是一个纯粹的假设的无质量的玻色子“的引力,而尚未进行检测。 Now the gas that makes up a star is held together by two competing forces, keeping in mind that dukhan can be translated as vapor as discussed before; which is in turn merely a substance in a gaseous state.现在,煤气,使一个明星是竞争力一起举行了两个,同时要注意的杜汉 ,可译为蒸汽作为讨论过的,这又是在一个国家只在一气态物质。 Stars can thus be counted in the universal stage that is described in Surah Fussilat Holy Ayaah 12 as stars are merely gas held together by their hydrostatic equilibrium.(Keeping in mind that the majority of the Galaxy is still filled with clouds of gas).因此,可以计算明星在普遍阶段是在Surah Fussilat圣Ayaah 12只形容为恒星气体的流体静力平衡举行在一起。(牢记的是,大多数仍是银河与气体云填写)。 Hence all of Vargo's objections with regards to the order of Creation are silenced.因此,对瓦戈的反对所有方面的创作顺序是鸦雀无声。

So we now confront the plagiarism hypothesis, Carrier and Giron proposed similar if not identical arguments indeed the tautology is rather frustrating.因此,我们现在面临的剽窃假说,载体和吉龙提出类似的论点,如果不相同的同义反复确实是相当令人沮丧。 Anyway Vargo writes:无论如何瓦戈写道:

    The Hindu Rig Veda says that the universe was created when the golden “cosmic egg” was split.钻机的印度教吠陀说,宇宙是创建时的黄金“宇宙蛋”的分裂。

The point is that in the creation myths, none of the them explain that the heavens and the earth were “mixed or blended” ; on the contrary they assume that either there was a solid cosmic egg (as Vargo points out) or that the the heavens and the earth where two solid objects that somehow got intertwined.问题的关键是, 在创造神话,“还没有他们解释说,天地是”混合或混合 ,相反他们认为,要么有一个坚实的宇宙蛋(如瓦戈指出),或在该天地在某种程度上得到了两个相互交织固体物体。

All of the myths contain necromantic aspects from thaumaturgic wind coiling like a massive serpent; to physical beings breathing in space.神话都包含从巫术方面的强大魔法师的风像一个巨大的蛇缠绕,在空间物理呼吸众生。 The Holy Qur'an contains none of the aforementioned flaws/errors rather, Allah Subhan Wa Ta'alaa explains that the heavens and the earth were once mixed or blended; and then split asunder.古兰经包含/错误,而没有上述缺点,真主萨巴罕华Ta'alaa解释说,天地是一次混合或混合,然后分裂四分五裂。

Vargo needs to point out where the presupposed plagiarism is within the Holy Qur'an and why it does not include the erroneous aspects of the older creation myths. 瓦戈指出,在需要的先决条件是在抄袭古兰经 ,为什么它不包括老年人创造神话方面的错误。 Via Vargo's flawed logic, when Darwin proposed the theory of evolution since the Greeks believed in an agnate theory of human origins, he must have merely been plagiarizing from the Greeks who also predicted that man evolved from a common source.通过瓦戈的逻辑缺陷,当达尔文提出进化论以来,希腊人相信这是人类起源的父系亲属的理论,只是他必须从希腊人谁也预测,从一个共同的进化来源,人剽窃。 Needless to say, Vargo's assertion is ab absurdo .不用说,瓦戈的说法 AB absurdo。 The ancients did indeed guess various details with regards to nature that have been substantiated, so if the Holy Qur'an mentions a correct phenomena that was perhaps encompassed in older cultures; that is not grounds to claim that the Holy Qur'an is the accruement of “cultural borrowing”.古人确实想与大自然的各种细节方面已经证实,因此,如果古兰经提到一个现象也许是正确的旧文化所涵盖的范围不是理由声称,古兰经是计提“文化借用”。

All in all, Vargo has made a bold claim yet provided nothing pertinent to the furtherance of his theory; alas, we see that Answering Islam has no respect for scholarship nor the Truth.所有所有,瓦戈作出了大胆的说法却没有提供相关的理论推进他的,很可惜,我们看到, 在回答伊斯兰教没有真理,也没有尊重奖学金。

And only God knows best.而且,只有上帝知道最好的。

  1. Professor John F. Hawley and Katherine A. Holcomb, Foundations of Modern Cosmology , Oxford University Press 2006; p.教授约翰F霍利和凯瑟琳答霍尔库姆, 现代宇宙学的基础 ,牛津大学出版社2006年;山口 412 [ 412 [ back背面 ] ]
  2. For a brief discussion on quantum alternatives and a critique of the SEC model please see my paper对于一个量子替代简短讨论和证券交易委员会模式的批判请参见我的论文 The Ultimate Questions终极问题 [ [ back背面 ] ]
  3. Edwin Hubble, “A Relation between distance and radial velocity among extra-galactic nebulae” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 15 (1929): pp. 168-73 [埃德温哈勃,“不同银河系外的星云距离之间的关系和径向速度”电力系统及其自动化科学15(1929)美国国家科学院:页。168-73 [ back背面 ] ]
  4. Professor John F. Hawley and Katherine A. Holcomb, Foundations of Modern Cosmology , Oxford University Press 2006, p.教授约翰F霍利和凯瑟琳答霍尔库姆, 现代宇宙学的基础 ,2006年牛津大学出版社,第 290 [ 290 [ back背面 ] ]
  5. Ibid. , p. 同上。山口 126 [ 126 [ back背面 ] ]
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  1. Salman Abu Hamza says: 萨勒曼哈姆扎 说:

    Allahu AKbar真主至大
    Good article.好文章。
    Laa ilaha ilallah muhammadu rassolullah快来ilaha ilallah muhammadu rassolullah

  2. Denis Giron says: 丹尼斯吉龙 说:

    Greetings问候

    I am glad to see that Bismika Allaahuma is picking up Servidor's wonderfully-written pieces.我很高兴地看到,Bismika Allaahuma正在复苏Servidor的奇妙写的作品。 I just want to comment on one small portion…我只想评论一小部分...

    I looked at Vargo's article, and he does not make any explicit charge of plagiarism, thus the last paragraph comes off as a bit of a straw man.我看着瓦戈的文章,他没有作出任何明确的指控剽窃,因此最后一段,是经过了一个稻草人位。

    Furthermore, has it been demonstrated that ratq necessarily means “mixed/blended” (as to be distinguished from “intertwined”?), and if so, mixed/blended in what sense?此外,有没有被证明ratq必然意味着“混合/混合”(如可从“交织在一起的”杰出的?),如果是这样,混合/混合在什么意义上? It seems to me that the only thing we can be certain about is that the text is stating that at one point the heavens and the earth were together, and then they were separated.在我看来,唯一可以肯定的是,文字说明是在一个点的天地在一起,然后他们分开。 That idea, as Vargo pointed out, is not exactly a new idea, nor does it seem to be one which conveys tremendous scientific import.这一想法,因为瓦戈指出,不完全是一个新的想法,似乎也不是一个巨大的传达科学进口。

    It is a bit unfortunate for a believer in a religious text to demand that others show him alleged errors in the text (how does one do that to a sufficient degree?).这是一个位在一个宗教信徒不幸的文本,要求别人显示他涉嫌在文本(如何做一个错误,就是有足够的程度?)。 It would be better to focus on the question of whether the essential idea (that which we can boil the text down to with certainty) is new, or containing anything more detailed than what has appeared in previous creation stories.这将是更好地把重点放在问题的基本思想是否(即我们可以煮到文本与确定性)是新的,或载有什么东西比在以往创作的故事出现详细。

  3. Startucuus says: Startucuus 说:

    Denis, I am amazed at your presence at a lot of places on the web I've visited.丹尼斯,我很惊讶于你的存在就在我到过许多地方的网络。 Nice to hear from you.很高兴收到你的来信。 Man, you have a good head on your shoulders.男人,你有你的肩膀好头。 Your unique way of thinking, your un-accidental sense of logic, your acute sense of finding where the action is….你的独特的思维方式,您的取消偶然的逻辑感,你在那里找到的行动是敏锐...。 How can such a Package be a coincidence or an accident of nature?试问这样的包是一个巧合还是大自然的意外?

    Apologies but my intention was not to praise or anything other than that which I have concluded above.道歉,但我的用意不是来赞美或任何其他比我上面已经结束。

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  5. Patrick Maxwell says: 帕特里克麦克斯韦 说:

    A good read…compelling and rich.一个好的读...吸引力和丰富。

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