The Descent Of Jesus Son Of Mary, As Portrayed In The Quran该血统的儿子,耶稣的圣母玛利亚,为描绘在可兰经


10 December 2006 2006年12月10日

Shaykh `Abdul `Aziz Al-Humaydi沙伊克` `阿卜杜勒阿齐兹humaydi

The Qur’an makes three references to the return of Jesus son of Mary (may peace be upon him) to the earth — i.e., his descent from the sky — in order to accomplish various tasks.古兰经使得三个参考归还儿子,耶稣的圣母玛利亚(五月他安宁) ,以地球-即,他的后裔从天空-为了完成各项任务。

THE FIRST REFERENCE: is in Surah Nisaa’, verses 156-159. 第一参考:是在surah nisaa ' ,小诗156-159 。 As for the context of these verses, Allah, the Exalted, mentions the fabrications of the Jews, their slander of Mary, their rejection of Faith, and claim that they killed Jesus son of Mary — the Messenger of Allah.至于背景下,这些小诗,安拉,开天辟地,提到捏造的犹太人,他们的诽谤,圣母玛利亚,他们拒绝接受的信仰,并且宣称,他们杀死耶稣的儿子,玛丽-信使的真主。 Thereupon Allah, the Exalted, declares the falsity of these claims and says,于是安拉,开天辟地,宣告了虚假的这些说法,并说,

“And because of their saying (boasting), ‘We killed Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,’ - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so.” "因为他们的话说(吹嘘) , '我们杀死了弥赛亚,耶稣儿子玛丽,即时通讯的真主, ' -但他们杀了他,没有也不会钉在十字架上他的意思,但它是出现在他们如此" 。 1

We have learned from the preceding sections about the disciple who resembled Jesus and voluntarily sacrificed and ransomed himself, as has been specifically stated by the leading scholars of Islam.我们了解到,从前面几节关于大弟子谁类似于耶稣并自愿牺牲赎出自己,因为已经明确表示,由知名学者的伊斯兰教。

SO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED THEN? Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus son of Mary to the sky. 那么,究竟发生了,然后呢?安拉,开天辟地,提出耶稣儿子玛丽向天空。 His enemies, the Jews, failed to harm him, let alone kill and crucify him.他的敌人,犹太人,并没有伤害他,更遑论杀死他钉死在十字架上。 This is a clear and unambiguous text that carries no room for another interpretation.这是一项明确的和毫不含糊的文字,没有空间的另一种诠释。 It states clearly that Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus to Himself - bodily and his soul - in order to save him from the Jews murdering and crucifying him.它明确指出,安拉,开天辟地,提出耶稣自己-身体和他的灵魂-为了挽救他,从犹太人的谋杀和人钉在十字架上他。 Allah, the Exalted, says in the Quran,安拉,开天辟地说,在可兰经

“But Allah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself; and Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.” "但真主对他提出了(与他的身体与灵魂)祂自己;安拉是前所未有的全方位功能强大,全明智的" 。 2

So, if anyone claims that only the soul was raised, it would be incorrect, as is shown from the two following perspectives.所以,如果有人声称只有灵魂提出了,它会不正确,因为研究表明,从以下两个角度。

FIRSTLY , Allah made a mention of this raise in the context of refutation of the claim of the Jews that they killed the Christ. 首先 ,阿拉作了一提的,这在提高的背景下驳索赔的犹太人说,他们打死了基督。 So, if it were that only the soul was raised, then that would actually mean an acknowledgment of the claim of the Jews that they killed the Christ - which is to remove his soul!因此,如果它被认为只是灵魂提出了,那将实际上等于承认索赔的犹太人说,他们打死了基督-这是消除他的灵魂!

SECONDLY , if it were true that only his soul was raised, there would remain no distinction for Jesus above the rest. 第二,如果它是真实的,只有他的灵魂被提出,将继续不分耶稣以上的休息。 For all Prophets (peace be upon them), and in fact all believing Muslims, have their souls raised to the sky upon their death.为所有先知(愿和平降临他们) ,并在事实上都以为穆斯林,有自己的灵魂提高到天空后,其死因。 So, does there remain anything that distinguishes Jesus, for which Allah makes a special marked mention in the Qur’an that He raised him?那么,是否还存在着什么区别,耶稣,因为真主使一个特别显着提古兰经说,他提出了他吗?

After establishing this point, another Qur’anic verse follows in the same context of the ones that preceded.以后,确立了这一点,另一qur'anic诗句如下,在同一背景下的那些前面。 This one clearly bears evidence on another return of the Christ (peace be upon him) to the earth and that he will descend from the sky.这其中一个明显的证据,熊又回到了基督(他安宁) ,以地球,而且他还将下降,从天空。 The purpose of this is the crucial role he will play upon his return to the earth.这项议案的目的,是关键的角色,他将发挥后,他返回地球。 Allah, the Exalted, says:安拉,开天辟地,内容为:

“And there is none of the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him (Jesus son of Mary as a Messenger of Allah and a human being) before his death. "有没有一个人民的圣经(犹太人和基督徒) ,但一定要相信他(耶稣儿子玛丽作为信使安拉和一个人) ,然后他的死因。 And on the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them.”关于复活的日子,他将是一位证人对他们的" 。 3

The verse presents the message in a future tense, so it is with regards to the events to come after the raising of the Christ.诗歌呈现的讯息,在未来的紧张,所以这方面的活动来后,提高了基督。 It informs that some of the People of the Book will believe in the Christ.通报指出,一些人的这本书会相信,在基督。 But when will that be?但何时会发生这种情况? It will be upon his descent, his return and coming onto the earth once again.会后,他的后裔,他的返回和进入地球一遍。 Imam Tabari, the renowned scholar of the Qur’anic exegesis (may Allah cover him in mercy), explained this.伊玛目泰伯里,著名学者的qur'anic训诂学(五月阿拉涵盖他慈悲) ,解释了这一点。 He said:他说:

The meaning of the verse ‘And there is none of the people of the Scripture but must believe in him’, that is: in Jesus, ‘before his death’, that is: before the death of Jesus.所指的诗歌' ,有没有一个人民的圣经,但要相信他的' ,这就是:我们在耶稣, '他死之前' ,即:在死亡之前的耶稣。 It is explained as follows: that all of them will affirm and acknowledge him when he descends to kill the Antichrist, thereafter, all the religion will give way to only the one, which is the pure upright religion of Islam - the religion of Abraham (may the peace be him).这是解释如下:他们都将予以肯定和承认他的时候,他降,以杀死箴,此后,所有的宗教,将让路给只有一个,这是单纯的直立的伊斯兰宗教-宗教的亚伯拉罕( 5月,平安他) 。 4

THE SECOND REFERENCE in the Noble Qur’an to the imperative nature of the descent of Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, in order to complete the task that must be done on the earth, is found in Surah Zukhruf in the Qur’an. 第二次提及 ,在高尚的古兰经,以紧迫性的后裔耶稣基督,儿子佑,为了完成任务,是必须做的对地球,是发现在surah zukhruf在古兰经。 Allah, the Exalted, says in it,安拉,开天辟地说,在资讯科技,

“And when the son of Mary is quoted as an example (i.e., Jesus worshipped like their idols), behold, your people cry aloud (laugh out at the example). "当儿子的玛丽是引用的一个例子(即耶稣像崇拜自己的偶像) ,你看,你们的人大声的哭喊(笑列于其中一例) 。 And say: Are our gods better or is he (i.e. Jesus)?并说:是我们的神好,还是他(即耶稣) ? They quoted not the above example except for argument.他们引述不是上面的例子中,除论据。 Nay!不仅如此! But they are a quarrelsome people.可是,这是吵架的人。 He (i.e. Jesus) was not more than a slave.他(即耶稣) ,不超过当奴隶。 We granted Our Favor to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel (i.e. his creation without a father).我们理所当然的,我们赞成他,并且我们取得了他的一个例子,为孩子们的以色列(即他的创作没有一个父亲) 。 And if it were Our Will, We would have (destroyed you all, and) made angels to replace you on the earth.如果它被我们的意志,我们将有(摧毁你的一切,和)作了天使,以取代你对地球。 And he (i.e. Jesus) shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (i.e. Day of Resurrection).和他(即耶稣) ,应由一个已知的迹象(未来的) ,一小时(即复活的日子) 。 Therefore have no doubt concerning it.因此毫无疑问有关。 And follow Me (i.e. Allah)!和大家跟我来(即真主) ! This is the Straight Path.”这是直的路" 。 5

In another recitation, it is recited as “And he shall be a mark”.在另一背诵,它是背诵,因为"他当然会是一个标志" 。 It means, a symbol, a portent, a sign of the Hour.这意味着,一个符号,一个预兆,象征一小时。 6

How can Jesus son Mary, be a sign of the Hour (Doomsday)?怎样才能耶稣儿子玛丽,是一个标志,一小时(世界末日) ? It cannot be except with his descent being in the last stage and period.它不能被除与他的后裔正处于最后阶段和时期。 His descent would then be a great sign and one of the major portents of the Hour - a sign that announces the closeness of its occurrence.他的后裔便成为一个伟大的标志之一,主要印的一小时-一个迹象宣布接近,其发生。 This is how the verse has commonly been explained by the scholars of tafsir (exegesis of the Quran).这是怎样的诗句已普遍得到解释,由学者tafsir (训诂学的古兰经) 。 Amongst them are Mujahid, Suddee, Qatada, Hasan al-Basri, Dahhaak and Ibn Zayd.其中有穆贾希德, suddee ,塔达,哈桑基地巴斯里, dahhaak和伊本zayd 。 It is also the saying of Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him).这也是说的伊本阿巴斯(五月阿拉很乐意与他) 。 They all have stated this explicitly, that Jesus son of Mary is one of the signs of the Hour in the sense that he will descend and rule the earth and dwell therein for forty years, as is mentioned in the authentic hadith, that will be mentioned shortly.他们都清楚表明这项明确,即耶稣的儿子佑就是其中的迹象, 1小时在某种意义上说,他将降临,统治地球与纠缠,因此,为四十年,为的是在真实的圣训,将提不久。 And his descent will be one of the great signs of Allah and one of the supreme portents of the Hour.和他的后裔将是一个伟大的迹象,真主之一,最高人民法院印的一小时。

THE THIRD REFERENCE TO IT IN THE QURAN The deduction from this text is indeed remarkable. 第三次提到它在可兰经扣除额从这个文本,实在了不起。 One notes that there is hardly ever a mention of the story of Jesus (in the Quran) except that it is mentioned along with it that,我注意到它们有几乎都提到了耶稣的故事(古兰经) ,除了它是提到随着它说,

“He will speak to the people in the cradle and in manhood” "他将发言的人的摇篮,并在男子气概" 7 七日

In this, Allah mentioned two remarkable and rare events, that are also two dazzling signs (proofs) of Allah found in the character of Jesus Christ.在这方面,真主提到两个显着和罕见的事件,还有两个令人眼花缭乱的牌(证)的阿拉发现,在性格的耶稣基督。

THE FIRST MATTER is that he spoke in the cradle while still an infant. 第一件事是,他以摇篮,同时还是一个婴儿。 This does not occur except as a miracle from Allah, the Mighty, and the Magnificent.不会再发生这种事,除非是一个奇迹,从安拉,浩浩荡荡,与雄伟。 That is why it has never occurred except with three people as has been established in the authentic hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him).这就是为什么它从来没有发生除与3人,因为已经建立了正宗的圣训叙述由阿布hurairah (五月阿拉很乐意与他) 。 8 . So the speaking of Jesus (peace be on him) in the cradle was indeed a sign, and there was a need, and the circumstance called for it as the mother of Jesus came to be held in suspicion due to the birth, `how can a woman give birth without a husband?’ They even voiced this explicitly, as reported in the Quran, “Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman.”因此,在谈到耶稣(愿他)在摇篮的确是一个标志,并有必要,这种情况下,要求把它当作是母亲,耶稣来到被关押在怀疑,因为要出生, `如何能一名妇女分娩,没有一个丈夫? ' ,他们甚至表示,这明确,为报告的可兰经, "你的父亲是不是一个人用来犯下通奸,也不是你的母亲是一个unchaste女人" 。 9 九日

So, a miracle was required to prove her innocence and to prove that the birth was another such a miracle.所以,是一个奇迹,被要求证明她的清白,要证明的诞生,是另一个这样的一个奇迹。 Thus the infant spoke in the cradle, an extraordinary, unaccustomed event.因此,婴幼儿以摇篮,是一个不平凡的,不习惯。 But the verse couples this miraculous event, with the mention of another event - of him speaking as a middle-aged adult.但韵文夫妇这一奇迹般的事件,但须提及的另一项活动-对他来说,作为一名中年成人。 But every one speaks at that age.但每个人都讲这个岁数。 So where is the miracle in that?那么,是一个奇迹,在这? The Arabic word used in the verse that refers to that stage of his life, is kuhoola , which is used for a person past the age of forty and up to the age of fifty or sixty years.在阿拉伯语中使用了韵文,它指的那个阶段,他的生命,是kuhoola ,它可以用来为一个人过去的年龄在40和高达50岁,或者60年。 Is it at all remarkable that one speaks at the age of sixty or even seventy?!是它在各令人瞩目的是一个操在60岁甚至七十吗! So where is the miracle that is alluded to in this section of the verse which mentions that Jesus speaks as a middle aged man?那么,是一个奇迹,这就是暗示在本节中的诗句,其中提到耶稣讲作为一个中年男子吗?

This shows that just as his speech in the cradle as an infant was a miracle, likewise he will descend and speak to the people as a middle aged man in the last stages of this world, making his descent and speech thereupon, also a miracle.这表明,正如他的讲话在摇篮作为一个婴儿是一个奇迹,同样地,他将降临,讲出人民群众作为一个中年男子,在最后阶段的这个世界上,使他的后裔和言语于是,又是一个奇迹。 Otherwise, there is no miracle in a sixty or seventy year old communicating by speech!否则,是没有奇迹,在六十或七十年岁的沟通,通过演讲!

So the evidence from this section of the verse in the Qur’an that he will speak to the people as a middle-aged adult is from the following two perspectives.因此,从证据的这一节诗歌在古兰经说,他会以向人民负责,作为一名中年成人,是从以下两个方面来看。

FIRSTLY , some of the scholars of Islam, amongst them is ibn Musayyab, stated that Jesus son of Mary, was raised to the sky while he was at an age of thirty three years, in the prime of his youth (referred to in Arabic as shabaab , which is a stage prior to the one mentioned in the Quran, kuhoola ). 首先 ,一些学者对伊斯兰教的,他们之间是伊本musayyab ,指出耶稣的儿子,圣母玛利亚,有人提出向天空,而他是上了年纪的三十三年,在壮年的他的青年(在阿拉伯语作为shabaab ,这是一个阶段之前,将其中提到,在可兰经, kuhoola ) 。 So he had not yet reached the stage of kuhoola .所以他还未达到阶段kuhoola

SECONDLY , here comes the aspect of amazement, marvel and the miracle. 其次,在这里,随之而来的各方面的惊奇,惊叹和奇迹。 The aspect, which bears evidence on the point, is that he speaks to the people as a middle-aged man ( in kuhoola ) after having been raised, and his being raised is indeed an astonishing event.方面,负有证据,就这一点,是因为他说话,以为人民服务为一名中年男子( kuhoola )后,有人提出,他所提出的确实是一个令人惊讶的事件。 And he will descend, and his descent is also another astonishing, remarkable event.他将降临,和他的后裔,也是另一种惊人的,了不起的事件。 He will then speak to the people and will live after his descent for forty years.届时他将发言,以对人民,将生活后,他的后裔为四十年。 This forty added to the thirty years makes him someone who would have reached the age of kuhoola , and having spoken at that age.这四十添加到三十年使得他的人将达到成人年龄kuhoola ,谈过这个岁数。 He will then have spoken to the people as he spoke to them in the cradle.届时他将有发言,向人民负责,因为他的发言,以他们的摇篮。 This is a clear and unambiguous indication that he (peace be upon him) will certainly complete his role and his part, and will descend towards the last stages and speak to the people as a middle-aged man, just as he spoke miraculously as an infant.这是一个明确无误的迹象表明他(安宁予他)一定会完成他的角色和他的部分,而且将沦落走向最后阶段,讲为人民服务为一名中年男子,正如他以奇迹般的作为婴儿。 Imam Tabari related from Abdurahman ibn Zayd that he said, “Jesus did indeed speak to them in the cradle, and he will speak to them when he kills the Antichrist, he will then be a kahl (middle-aged person).”伊玛目泰伯里链,从abdurahman伊本zayd他说: "耶稣确实发言,以他们的摇篮,他将发言时,他杀死了箴,他届时,将有kahl (中年的人) " 。 10 10个

  1. Sura’ an-Nisaa’ 4:157 [苏拉' - nisaa ' 4:157 [ back ]
  2. Sura’ an-Nisaa’ 4:158 [苏拉' - nisaa ' 4:158 [ back ]
  3. Sura’ an-Nisaa’ 4:159 [苏拉' - nisaa ' 4:159 [ back ]
  4. See Tafsir at-Tabari 4:356-357 [tafsir -泰伯里 4:356-357 [ back ]
  5. Sura’ az-Zukhruf 43:57-61 [苏拉'排序- zukhruf 43:57-61 [ back ]
  6. See Fathu-l Qadeer of Shawkaani, (4/562) for references of those who read it so.fathu - 1卡迪尔的shawkaani , ( 4 / 562 )为参考的那些看过这样做。 [ back ]
  7. Sura’ Aal `Imraan 3: 46, and Sura’ al-Maa’ida 5:110 [苏拉' aal ` imraan 3 : 46 ,和苏拉' maa'ida 5:110 [ back ]
  8. See Saheeh Bukhari (4/201-202) [可靠布哈里 ( 4/201-202 ) [ back ]
  9. Sura’ Maryam 19:28 [苏拉'的Maryam 19时28分[ back ]
  10. Tafsir Tabari , 3/271 [ tafsir泰伯里 , 3 / 271 [ back ]

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16 Responses to “The Descent Of Jesus Son Of Mary, As Portrayed In The Quran” 16回应"血统的儿子,耶稣的圣母玛利亚,为描绘在可兰经"

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  2. Arnold said on 阿诺德说,就 11 December 2006 2006年12月11日 :

    We have learned from the preceding sections about the disciple who resembled Jesus and voluntarily sacrificed and ransomed himself, as has been specifically stated by the leading scholars of Islam. 我们了解到,从前面几节关于大弟子谁类似于耶稣并自愿牺牲赎出自己,因为已经明确表示,由知名学者的伊斯兰教。

    SO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED THEN?那么,究竟发生了,然后呢? Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus son of Mary to the sky.安拉,开天辟地,提出耶稣儿子玛丽向天空。 His enemies, the Jews, failed to harm him, let alone kill and crucify him.他的敌人,犹太人,并没有伤害他,更遑论杀死他钉死在十字架上。 This is a clear and unambiguous text that carries no room for another interpretation.这是一项明确的和毫不含糊的文字,没有空间的另一种诠释。 It states clearly that Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus to Himself - bodily and his soul - in order to save him from the Jews murdering and crucifying him.它明确指出,安拉,开天辟地,提出耶稣自己-身体和他的灵魂-为了挽救他,从犹太人的谋杀和人钉在十字架上他。 Allah, the Exalted, says in the Quran,安拉,开天辟地说,在可兰经

    “But Allah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself; and Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.”2 "但真主对他提出了(与他的身体与灵魂)祂自己;安拉是前所未有的全方位功能强大,全明智的" 。 2

    This makes absolutely no sense at all.这使得绝对没有任何意义可言。 I can understand God raising Jesus up, but I can’t understand God then bothering to go out of his way to make someone else take Jesus’ place.我能理解上帝耶稣提高了,但我不明白上帝的困扰,然后走出去,他的方式让别人以耶稣出生的地方。 Why the need to have any Crucifixion at all?为什么需要有任何在十字架上的一切? Jesus was raised up, the Jews see he was special and they erred and that’s it.耶稣被提出,犹太人见他特别和他们犯错,就是这样。 Why the need for the deception?为什么需要为欺骗? Some suggest that Allah deceived them as a punishment.有些人建议安拉欺骗他们,以作惩罚。 What?什么? What kind of crazy idea is that?什么样的疯狂想法是? Deception is not punishment.欺骗不是惩罚。 When you punish, you want the punished to know what they did and why they are being punished.当你惩罚,你要受惩罚,以了解他们所做的,所以他们正在受到惩罚。 But the Jews experienced no punishment by being tricked into thinking they killed Jesus.但是犹太人经历,没有处罚,由被欺骗,以为他们杀害耶稣。 And not only that, the Christians who didn’t kill Jesus and deserved no punishmnt were also deceived and punished for 600 years until Muhammad finally tells them the truth.不仅如此,基督信徒们并没有杀死耶稣,并当之无愧地没有punishmnt也欺骗和处分600年,直到穆罕默德最后告诉他们真相。 Why?为什么呢? Makes no sense at all.毫无意义可言。 And what did Allah gain from his deception?什么阿拉增益从他的欺骗? The largest religion in the world.最大的宗教,在世界上。 And what about at Judgement day?那么,在末世论吗? The Jews and Christians wouldn’t be at fault for believing what they believe because Allah tricked them into believing it.犹太人和基督徒不会有错,以为是什么,他们相信,因为真主骗他们以为它。 Allah saved Jesus and then, went out of his way to fake a crucixion.真主救耶稣,然后,走出去的方式,他伪造crucixion 。 If Allah want’s to deceive, there is nothing we can do about that and we are therefore blameless.如果安拉想要的,以欺骗,没有什么,我们所能做的,并因此,我们难辞其咎。

    Anyway, the whole notion of an all powerful being needing to deceive is kind of odd as well.总之,整个概念都被强大的需要,以欺骗,是种奇怪一样。 Love, giuide, punish, even kill, but deceive?爱, giuide ,惩罚,甚至杀死,但欺骗吗? One wouldn’t need to bother if they were all powerful.一个不用费心,如果他们都被强大的。 Deception is only needeed when you are not all powerful.欺骗只是needeed时,你是不是所有的强大。

    I never understood why all of this doesn’t sound silly to Muslims我从来不明白为什么这一切,不健全的傻穆斯林

  3. rainman said on rainman说,就 12 December 2006 2006年12月12日 :

    ALLAH does not decieve but the divided sects of christianity have deceived themselves.your man god orchestrated his death with the other members of trinity.jews rejected your god becuase they believed that your man god brought a new brand of jewdaism that was against the torah.why would a man god want his own word used against him? 阿拉不decieve但分歧教派的基督教欺骗themselves.your男子上帝授意他的去世与其他成员trinity.jews拒绝你的上帝,因为他们相信你的男子上帝带来一个新的品牌的jewdaism这是对犹太教律法。为什么会男子上帝要他自己的字被用来对付他吗?

    http://groups.google.com/group.....uline& http://groups.google.com/group.....uline &

    ” “[One thing] appeared like [another thing] to them” is not " " [一件事]漂亮[另一件事:告诉他们" ,是不是
    supported by the words ALLAH used in the Ayat until the word支持的话真主用在ayat直到字
    “shubbiha” is misconstrued to mean something it clearly does not say ~ " shubbiha "是被误指东西,这显然不说〜
    exclusively “for the sake of argument” over this non-event or “for the独家" ,为了论证"这个非事件或" ,为
    sake of interpretation” of it, both of which are proscribed by Q3:6.为了诠释"的方法,两者均属被禁截至第三季: 6 。
    Where else in the Arabic language do you find “shubbiha” used to mean当别人在阿拉伯语中,你找不到" shubbiha "用于指
    something like this?”这样的" ?

    the sanhedrin trial公会审判

    The (gospel) sum of the circumstances behind the arrest and trial betrays the fable behind the man-god. (福音)的款额的情况下,后面的逮捕和审判背叛寓言背后的人-神。 To wit:即:

    Two days before a most holy feast, Matthew has the high priests et al declining to subdue and kill the man of whom they object so as not to raise the ire of the Jewish citizenry.前两天一个最神圣的节日,马太具有较高的神父等人下降到制服和杀死该名男子的人,他们反对以便不引起激怒了犹太人的公民。 (26:1:4). ( 26:1:4 ) 。 Obviously Matthew in portraying the Jewish powers that be, felt that the crowd is more inclined to rail against the breaking of doctrine than to be riled at a man charged with political crimes.马修显然是在描绘犹太人的权力,认为该人群更倾向于对铁路打破教条比被激怒了,在一名男子被控以政治罪。

    But then we witness a total about face per Matthew.但后来我们看到,共有约面对每马修。 The man Jesus who sat and ate his Passover meal which can only happen on the advent of this most holy day, is subsequently arrested by the minions of the Jewish leaders.该名男子耶稣的人坐,吃他的逾越节餐只能发生在来临的这个最神圣的日子,其后被逮捕,由minions的犹太领袖。 (26:47:57) ( 26:47:57 )

    These same leaders, priests; elders; scribes, as Matthew would have us believe, shirked their duties to the laws of Moses as well as the flock in deference to hearing testimony against the man-god and held trial against him on the very same high holy day they arrested him.这些相同的领袖,牧师;长老;文士,因为马修想我们相信,推卸自己的职责,以法律的摩西以及为羊群听从了听证会的证词对人造上帝并举行审判对他就非常高,同时神圣的日子,他们将他拘捕。 Finding him guilty, they advanced his conviction to two governing personages which obviously had nothing better to do in tumultuous Judea than to hear the case of Jews against another Jew–post haste.找到他有罪,他们先进的,他的信念,以两个执政人士,其中显然有什么好做,在动荡不定的朱迪亚比听到案件犹太人反对另一个犹太人员额,不能操之过急。

    By morning, he is found guilty; is assaulted and paraded in front of a crowd of Jews who should have been observing the Passover; is marched through a few hundred feet of the Jerusalem streets; hung on a cross and conveniently dies at 3pm, long enough to bury him in Jewish custom before sunset.由上午,他被发现有罪;殴打,并在游行前的一大群犹太人,他们本来应该遵守逾越节;游行是通过几百英尺的耶路撒冷的街道;洪对两岸和交通方便的模具在下午三时,只要足以将他埋葬在犹太人的传统,在日落前。

    Of all of the throngs of believers the gospels would have us think followed Jesus and greeted him in his excursions throughout their towns, it would only have taken two to maintain the credibility of the man.所有的throngs的信徒福音会想想,我们遵循耶稣和他打招呼,在他的远足活动在其整个城镇,它只会采取了两项,以维持公信力的该名男子。 But they all stayed home!但是他们都留在家中! Peter—the pontiff yet, lied to save himself, James, Matthew, John, Mary, Mary and Mary, Joseph, Lazarus and all the rest are nowhere to be found as character witnesses.彼得-教宗,但说谎,以拯救自己,詹姆斯,马太,约翰,玛丽,玛丽和玛丽,约瑟夫,拉撒路和所有其余的都是无处可找到品格证人。

    Two witnesses!两名证人! That is all that was required of Jewish law to proclaim one’s innocence.这就是一切,这是必要的犹太依法宣告自己的清白。 And not one from the multitude came forward.而不是从千头万绪出面。 Instead, they all supposedly condemned the man to die.相反,他们都理应谴责该名男子死亡。 All the throngs who cheered on his arrival; all the familial members of those whom he raised from the dead, all the healed and fed–they all stayed home!所有throngs欢呼,对他的到来,所有家族成员的那些人,他提出了从死里复活,全部愈合,加,他们都留在家中!

    Is this believable?这是否可信? Only to those who do not understand that the Romans under Pilate, as was succinctly stated by another poster, gave not one wit about the sensibilities of the Jews.只有那些不明白,罗马人比拉多下,正如简明扼要地说明了另一个海报,没有了一个机智关于情面的犹太人。 Pilate, as was the governor, was all about Rome, appeasing his emperor and concerned only about those who threatened Roman rule.比拉多,是总督,是所有关于罗马,他的绥靖天皇和只关心那些威胁罗马统治。 Some upstart who claimed to be king of the Jews and opposed by Jewish elders, hardly qualifies.一些暴发户,他们自称为王的犹太人和反对犹太长老,难以资格。

    The gospels as we have them are but the undated writings of authors unknown–a reflection of propaganda during the first few centuries of the common era.福音,因为我们有他们,但没有日期的著作,作者不详-反映了宣传,在最初数百年的共同时代。

  4. Arnold said on 阿诺德说,就 12 December 2006 2006年12月12日 :

    “ALLAH does not decieve but the divided sects of christianity have deceived themselves.your man god orchestrated his death with the other members of trinity.” "真主不decieve但分歧教派的基督教欺骗themselves.your男子上帝授意他的去世与其他成员三位一体" 。

    Oh, so it was Jesus that made that other guy look like him.哦,所以说这是耶稣使其他家伙看他一样。 Jesus was the one who decieved.耶稣是谁欺骗了。 Jesus is supposedf to be a holy prophet of Islam.耶稣是supposedf是一个神圣先知的伊斯兰教。 So a holy prophet plays little games and deceives people.这么一个神圣先知扮演小游戏和蒙骗群众。 But of course, as you know and believe about Jesus, he could never do this unless Allah gave him the power.不过,当然,你也知道并相信耶稣,他可从来没有做到这一点,除非真主给了他力量。 So now we have God AND Jesus both being decievers.所以现在我们有上帝和耶稣都被decievers 。 This gets better all of the time.这个好了所有的时间。

    As far as the Christians deceiving themselves, this too is impossible.据基督教徒在欺骗自己,这也是不可能的事。 If Allah or Jesus wished to make someone else look like Jesus, what can the people possibly do but observe with their own eyes?如果真主或耶稣要作别人的样子耶稣,怎样才能保证人民不可能做,但观察,用自己的眼睛吗? That’s all they did and they observed what definitely appeared to be Jesus.这对他们没有和他们观察到什么绝对似乎受到耶稣。 That’s not their fault, it is the fault of whoever “made it appear so”, which would either be God or both God and Jesus.这不是他们的错,它是过错谁" ,似乎如此" ,这将不是被上帝或两者上帝和耶稣。

    Here is the dictionaries first definition for “deceive”这里是第一字典的定义为"欺骗"

    1. 1 。 to mislead by a false appearance or statement; delude: They deceived the enemy by disguising the destroyer as a freighter.为了混淆视听,由一个虚假的外表或陈述;搞乱了:他们欺骗敌人抗衡驱逐舰作为货船。

    That is precisely what Allah or Allah and Jesus did.这正是安拉或真主和耶稣。 And they didn’t have to do this as it did nothing to save Jesus.他们没有做到这一点,因为它没有采取任何挽救耶稣。 And the results of this deception is the largest religion in the world with a cross as it’s symbol.与此结果欺骗是世界上最大的宗教,在世界上具有交叉,因为它的象征意义。 Why did these Christians think Jesus was crucified?为什么这些基督徒认为耶稣被钉在十字架上? Because God went out of his way to make it appear that way.因为上帝失控,他的方式,使之出现这样的。 And again, there is no purpose for this in terms of saving or protecting Jesus再次,是没有目的的,这无论在节约或保护耶稣

    Since it is established that God might deceive mankind if he sees fit, then how could we possibly know anything else that he might be deceiving about?由于它是建立上帝可能会欺骗人类,如果他认为合适的,那么,我们又如何能够知道一切,他有可能被欺骗吗? We couldn’t.我们不能。 The only reason we don’t ask whether God is deceiving us or not is because of the trust we place in God that he would never deceive.唯一的理由,我们不要问上帝是否是欺骗我们与否,是因为对我们的信任发生了上帝,他不会骗不了人。 If God deceives once, that trust is gone.如果上帝欺骗一次,即在信任已经荡然无存。

    So this was a really dumb story made up by Muhammad in an attempt to bring Christians and Jews together under him.因此,这是一个真正的哑巴的故事,弥补了由穆罕默德在试图把基督徒和犹太人共同努力下他。 But Muhammad didn’t see the logical problem with a deceiving God because he himself was a deciever.但穆罕默德没有看到逻辑问题,以欺骗上帝,因为他自己是一个deciever 。

  5. Arnold said on 阿诺德说,就 12 December 2006 2006年12月12日 :

    Oh, and rainman. 哦,并rainman 。 Another thing you did that was pretty funny is give all of these reason why the crucifixion never happened at all. 另一件事你做,这是很可笑的是,让所有的这些原因,在十字架上从来没有发生这回事。 But that’s not what the Quran says. 但是,那并不是什么可兰经说。 So all of the peculiarities you were pointing out goes against even the Quran. 所以所有的特殊性,你指出背道而驰,甚至可兰经。 As far as two witnesses go, Pilate himself wanted to let him go. 据两名证人去,比拉多自己想要让他去。 Yoiu erroneously claim that Rome didn’t care at all about what the Jews wanted. yoiu错误地声称罗马亲舅舅不爱在各什么犹太人通缉。 This is not true at all. 这是完全不正确的。 They cared somewhat because a relatively satisfied people who are not angry, make for a good peaceful people to rule over. 他们有所照顾,因为一个比较满意的人,他们不愤怒,使有一个良好的和平人民的统治。 So in a matter as trivial as sacrificing a Jew, sure the Romans would kill a meaningless Jew if it kept the rest of the jews calm. 因此,在事小,牺牲犹太人,相信罗马人杀了犹太人毫无意义,如果它保存其余的犹太人平静。 As far as passover, maybe someone told you that you can not venture out more than 150 feet from your home and therefore these jews wouldn’t have been at this crucifixion. 据逾越节,也许有人告诉你,你不能走出去150多米远,你的家,因此这些犹太人,也不会被这个十字架上。 That rule is true. 这条规则是如此。 AFTER SUNSET. 经过日落。

  6. rman said on rman说,就 13 December 2006 2006年12月13日 :

    “This is not true at all. "这是完全不正确的。 They cared somewhat because a relatively satisfied people who are not angry, make for a good peaceful people to rule over. 他们有所照顾,因为一个比较满意的人,他们不愤怒,使有一个良好的和平人民的统治。 So in a matter as trivial as sacrificing a Jew, sure the Romans would kill a meaningless Jew if it kept the rest of the jews calm.” 因此,在事小,牺牲犹太人,相信罗马人杀了犹太人毫无意义,如果它保存其余的犹太人平静" 。

    bang an innocent flesh god who commited no freaking crime against roman law and release a murderer for commiting a crime agaisnt roman law?帮一个无辜的血肉上帝的人没有犯罪忧心,对罗马法,并释放出一个杀人犯犯下的罪行agaisnt罗马法? you expect anyone to believe new testament lie?你期望任何人相信新约全书何在? why would the butcher pilate who is ruling over weakling jews give 1 tiny hoot about jewish feeling?为什么屠夫比拉多谁是统治weakling犹太人,让小小的一叫,对犹太人的心声呢?

    “So, again, you think the Romans were afraid of the Jewish peasents; "那么,同样,你认为罗马人害怕犹太农民;
    afraid in a military sense and that this fear was so great that the恐怕在军事意义,并认为这恐怕是如此巨大的
    release of a convicted criminal would be the only thing they could释放一名被定罪的犯罪将成为他们唯一可以
    think of to stop them from rioting?想阻止他们的暴乱事件? This in turn, of course, is这反过来,当然是
    predicated on the fact that the Romans must have been incredibly stupid基于这样一个事实,即罗马人,必须是被难以置信的愚蠢
    as to think this would actually appease the peasents they were there to至于觉得这其实是安抚农民,他们在那里
    rule as well as on the fact that the peasents were apparently so easily统治以及对事实,即农民显然是这么容易
    dissuaded by such a transparent gesture”劝阻,由这样一个透明的姿态"

    “Why? "为什么? What was the fear?什么是可怕的呢? That hundreds of thousands of old men, old成千上万的老男人,老
    women, infant children would suddenly do what they hadn’t done for妇女,儿童,婴儿会突然做什么,他们没有做过的事情,为
    years before if not for that one criminal release at Passover?几年前,如果不是为了一刑事释放在逾越节? That
    would be the tipping point that was just too damn hot to risk not将成为引爆点,这是太妈的热点,以风险不
    doing?在做什么? The Romans were that terrified; the Jewish peasents were that古罗马人认为,惊恐万状;犹太农民人说,
    stupid as to be prevented from reallizing every other day of the year愚蠢的,以防止reallizing每隔一天的一年
    that all they needed to do was band together and riot and overthrow?”这一切,他们需要做的是乐队一起暴动和推翻" ?

    you see the problem mr ardnold with believeing the tripe of sh ite within the nt?你看这个问题问ardnold与believeing该tripe的SH信息技术设备与新台币?

  7. rman said on rman说,就 13 December 2006 2006年12月13日 :

    “Oh, and rainman. " 哦,并rainman 。 Another thing you did that was pretty funny is give all of these reason why the crucifixion never happened at all. 另一件事你做,这是很可笑的是,让所有的这些原因,在十字架上从来没有发生这回事。 But that’s not what the Quran says. 但是,那并不是什么可兰经说。 So all of the peculiarities you were pointing out goes against even the Quran.” 所以所有的特殊性,你指出背道而驰,甚至可兰经" 。

    I gave you a link above to show you that according to the Qur’aan no man got replaced on the cross.I gave you a link to show you that according to the Qur’aan the crucifxion event didn’t take place.But you didn’t bother to check the link out.我给你一个链接,以显示你,据该qur'aan任何人,取代了对cross.i给你一个链接,以显示你,据该qur'aan该crucifxion事件没有采取place.but你没有理会检查环节。

  8. rman said on rman说,就 13 December 2006 2006年12月13日 :

    “Oh, so it was Jesus that made that other guy look like him. "哦,所以说这是耶稣使其他家伙看他一样。 Jesus was the one who decieved. 耶稣是谁欺骗了。 Jesus is supposedf to be a holy prophet of Islam. 耶稣是supposedf是一个神圣先知的伊斯兰教。 So a holy prophet plays little games and deceives people. 这么一个神圣先知扮演小游戏和蒙骗群众。 But of course, as you know and believe about Jesus, he could never do this unless Allah gave him the power. 不过,当然,你也知道并相信耶稣,他可从来没有做到这一点,除非真主给了他力量。 So now we have God AND Jesus both being decievers. 所以现在我们有上帝和耶稣都被decievers 。 This gets better all of the time. 这个好了所有的时间。 "

    You are an idiot.It is in your religion that without keeping the children of israel spiritually blind and without allowing judas to betray your flesh god the crucifixon of your flesh god wouldn’t of happened.It is in your religion.it is in your belief system that your flesh god planned this rightfrom the start.It is in your religion that his torah was used against him.I gave you a link showing QUR’AAN does not agree that the crucifion EVENT TOOK PLACE.你是一个idiot.it是你的宗教,如果没有保持儿童的以色列精神上失明和而不让犹大出卖你们的肉身上帝crucifixon你的肉上帝不会的happened.it是在你religion.it是在你信念系统认为你的上帝肉计划这次rightfrom该start.it是你的宗教,他的律法是用来对付him.i给你一个链接显示qur'aan不同意认为crucifion事件发生。

  9. rman said on rman说,就 13 December 2006 2006年12月13日 :

    “And wherever he went–into villages, towns or countryside–they placed "不论他走到哪里-进入村庄,城镇或农村,他们还放置
    the sick in the marketplaces. 患病者在市场内。 They begged him to let them touch even 他们央求他,让他们触摸,甚至
    the edge of his cloak, and all who touched him were healed. 边上的外衣,而所有的人摸他的愈合。 "

    “Why would “the people” (aka, “the Jews;” presumably the same "为什么将"人民" (又名"犹太人" ,想必同样
    multitudes–all of Judea, in fact, according to Mark–who came out to众多-所有的朱迪亚,事实上,根据标记的人站出来
    witness John announcing Jesus as more holy than he and who will baptize证人约翰宣布耶稣圣更比他的人会baptize
    them all with the Holy Spirit, baptizing Jesus and presumably heard the他们都与圣灵,耶稣洗礼,并推测听到
    voice of God proclaim, “”You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am语音神自封" , "你是我的儿子,我所喜悦的,与你我
    well pleased,” and witnessed his healing “miracles” and blah, blah,好高兴" ,并目睹了他的治病"奇迹" ,并等等,等等,
    blah–want Jesus crucified, particularly just after he was found to等等想要耶稣钉在十字架上,尤其是刚刚经过他被发现