See my other posts about him:
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org.....cal-roots/

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org.....-for-rape/

His methodology is to generalise and try not to make simple factual statements that can easily be refuted.

The Quran does not share the same roots as the Torah and the New Testament. Those two were produced in Palestine in a Jewish context. The Quran was revealed in Arabia - thousands of kilometers away in a very different cultural context. The “Injil” of the Quran does not exist today, nor is there any evidence of it ever having existed in the past. No reference to it. No trace of it in other works. Either it never existed or there has been a vast conspiracy for the last 2000 years to cover up what Jesus really said. You can blame the Jews if you like but there is a simpler explanation about what Muhammed said.

dav said on 25 November 2006:”I would sincerely ask all to seek the truth. Importantly are we to please ourself, our traditional way of thinking/living, our spiritual/politically leaders? Or should our thinking and beliefs of faith be pleasing to the Almightty God. If what we say or do are leading to God then let rejoice together for we will be in the same heaven. If our deeds leads others astray and make Satan tremendously glad then u will have to answer to God after your life here on earth. Your spiritual/political leaders are not there to answer on your behalf. They too will have to give their accounts to God.”

I would sincerely ask you to seek the truth too - which is more likely, Muhammed got it wrong, or there is some vast conspiracy to suppressed the truth stretching over 2000 years? Your question is begging the question in that it is designed to lead you to a particular answer. How about “are we to please ourselves, our traditional way of thinking, our spiritual leaders AND God?” See how you have excluded a world of possibilities? You assume that you know with any certainty what God or Satan want. Apart from the obviously biased texts of your religion, why do you have confidence that you know anything? Muhammed will intercede with God for Muslims on the Last Day. Why can’t other people?

dav said on 25 November 2006:”I think friendship is a good thing. So if a scripture can give a command “Do not take a Jew or a Christian as a friend” Sura 5.51 lets think again. Jew n Christian are all over the world now regardles of race. Why the choise of word is so specific to ppl of these 2 faiths?”

Aren’t you changing your religion to suit your values and not your values to suit your religion?

The Quran share the same root of the Torah and New Testament and have said the Injil of the Christians and the Injil of the Quran are the same. However modern Muslim scholars have problem reconciling both of the Injil. How to justify that they are the same when the wordings and teachings are so different? Both can’t be right at the same time? One of the Injil has to be faulty. If the phrophet had said the Injil is the same but in the modern day found to be not and the Torah and New Testament seems to compliment each other then this must be the works of the Jews. They must have corrupted the Injil.

I would sincerely ask all to seek the truth. Importantly are we to please ourself, our traditional way of thinking/living, our spiritual/politically leaders? Or should our thinking and beliefs of faith be pleasing to the Almightty God. If what we say or do are leading to God then let rejoice together for we will be in the same heaven. If our deeds leads others astray and make Satan tremendously glad then u will have to answer to God after your life here on earth. Your spiritual/political leaders are not there to answer on your behalf. They too will have to give their accounts to God.

I think friendship is a good thing. So if a scripture can give a command “Do not take a Jew or a Christian as a friend” Sura 5.51 lets think again. Jew n Christian are all over the world now regardles of race. Why the choise of word is so specific to ppl of these 2 faiths?

Religion is a personal decision. It should be of free will and should not be punished. Is once a Muslim always Muslim concept still stands? If one is to apostate from Muslim faith then Sura 4.89 commands the person to be Hmmmm…..

Can I exchange my property and life for heaven? No where in The Law(Torah) or the Bible(Gospel) is this mentioned. Are we to slay and be slain for what? Who’s cause? Not mentioned in The Law(Torah) and the Bible(Gospel). Very coincidental or willfully chosen date of the famous 9/11/2001 event ..Sura 9.111

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YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

PICKTHAL: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

SHAKIR: Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah’s way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.

And yet I notice an inability to deal with anything I have said much less disprove any of it.

PaakMaw said on 2 November 2006:”For a quick example, his LAST sentence, “No one is being killed for their faith. Except non-Muslims” is merely trying to INSTIGATE and DISTRACT (I.D.).”

Instigate what? Is it true? Well yes it is. What is the point of denying it? Distract? From what? This site contains a large number of self-pitying articles that miss the point - only kafirs are dying for their religion. It goes to the heart of the issue.

(refer to Nafees’ comment on HeiGou’s behaviour and *#%#@# words in other sites in “On revising bigotry”)

For a quick example, his LAST sentence, “No one is being killed for their faith. Except non-Muslims” is merely trying to INSTIGATE and DISTRACT (I.D.).

Do not even honour his intentions by giving a response to the LAST or any other sentence. Such statements reveal his true intentions (I.D.) in participating in these discussions.

The Prophet, on the Israq Mi’raj, encountered voices calling out to him on both sides and rightfully ignored it, therein, a guide for us to do the same, to remain undistracted, in all our focus and efforts.

Regards, PaakMaw (”White Cat”)

You can trivially prove me wrong then. Where do I do any of this point scoring? It has been a long and slow process for me to realise that those Muslims who defend terrorism are probably not in the minority and actually have pretty good arguments. Certainly no one has ever been able to explain to me why Sheik Qaradawi is wrong when he support suicide bombing.

Ahmad said on 17 October 2006:”He wanted to be recognized as a winner of a debate. If he choose to be recognized as such let him be.”

Self-evidently on a Muslim-run site no kafir will ever “win” a debate even if we could agree what that meant.

Ahmad said on 17 October 2006:”9/11 was an unfortunate incident not only the Americans, the non-muslim but to all the Muslims all over the world. This is a real test time by Allah to all of us. Only those with a strongth faith in Allah and Muhammad (saw) shall pass the test. Rasullallah (saw) had been tested worst than this for did all other Prophets of Allah and some them were killed, just because they called all human beings to have a faith in Allah.”

Somehow I think it was a little more unfortunate for non-Muslims than for Muslims. But of course some people only care about their own and not humanity at large.

No one is being killed for their faith. Except non-Muslims.