Preisen Sie ist zu Allah, der uns mit dem Segen von monotheism bewilligte, ich suchen den Schutz von Allah von der Ungläubigkeit und jene Leute, die mit Ungläubigkeit sich verbinden. Der Autor des Buches von Enthüllung hatte seinen Gott wie beschrieben/schilderte ein getötetes Lamm mit sieben Hornen und sieben Augen. Er sagt wie folgt.
Und ich erblickte und, niedrig, in der Mitte des Throns und von den vier Tieren und in der Mitte der ältesten, stand ein Lamm, da es getötet worden war und hatte sieben Horne und sieben Augen, die der sieben Geist des Gottes weiter gesendet in alle Masse sind.1
Und in einem anderen Durchgang:
Diese bilden Krieg mit dem Lamm, und das Lamm überwindt sie: für ist ihn Lord der Lords und des Königs der Könige.2 Und: Nach diesem erblickte ich und, niedrig, eine große Menge, die kein Mann, von allen Nationen und von den kindreds numerieren könnte, und Leute und die Zungen, gestanden vor dem Thron und vor dem Lamm, gekleidet mit weißen Roben und Palmen in ihren Händen; Und geschrieen mit einer lauten Stimme, einem Saying, einer Rettung zu unserem Gott der sitteth nach dem Thron und an das Lamm.3 Beachten Sie bitte die Unterscheidung im letzten Vers zwischen Gott „das sitteth nach dem Thron“ und das Lamm, das anzeigt, daß Christen einen anderen Gott haben - ein Lamm - zum in Verbindung mit Allah anzubeten, der zutreffende Gott, der nach dem Thron ist. Welche Art des Gottes ist die, die beschrieben wird,/geschildert,/als Lamm angesehen, ein Schaf? Und mit sieben Augen und sieben Hornen! In der Tat wird es im neuen Testament das gesagt: Wieviel ist dann ein Mann, der besser als ein Schaf ist?4 Und nur Gott weiß gut!
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Jason said on 7 July 2007:
It’s obvious that you do not understand that doctrine of the Trinity. While this word does not appear anywhere in Scripture, it is clearly taught throughout the Bible. When Christ says, “The Father and I are one,” and “When you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father,” He is making it abundantly clear that He is God incarnate. There is one God manifested in three distinct persons, each having a unique purpose. The God of the Jews and the God of the Christians is one God, thus monotheism.
The reference that you’ve made in Revelation is to Christ. John wrote this in the only words that he could use to describe what he was seeing. It would take me months to fully discuss the exegetical aspects of how to properly interpret Christian eschatology but you are missing the fact that when John wrote this, those that read it fully understood what he was referencing by a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes.
If Christ was not the Son of God, and the lamb that removed our sins, then He is a complete liar. There’s no way He could be a good man because a heretic in any religion is not to be trusted on anything that he says, yet Islam holds Jesus to be one of the prophets of the type of Moses and Noah. How can that be true if he’s a blasphemer? I believe your scrutiny is in the wrong place. Look to your Quran for contradictions.
islamispeace said on 9 July 2007:
“…but you are missing the fact that when John wrote this, those that read it fully understood what he was referencing by a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes.”
So, what was he referencing, if I may ask?
Samuel Rerung Allo said on 11 July 2007:
I am still learning which all will agree is a never ending process till we die! BUT are we going to be IGNORANT and continue to be BLIND! Please be sincere to yourself…ponder for a moment if you believe that there is a ‘CREATOR’. Now having said this,I want you to honestly ask yourself “Where am I going to,if I die now?”. Can you honestly answer this question? The answer and choice you decide will determined if you are ignorant and blind OR wisdom and truth revealed and your eyes are opened!
I am just a very ordinary human, I need not have to be in theological school or be a harvard school graduate or even to be religious fanatic.
I take NO sides, be you a so called Christian or Islam or Hindu or Buddhist or whatever you claimed yourself to be……I tell you all humans are DOOM and will go to a place call Hell. Like it or not again the choice is yours, your right to decide to be DOOM, GO TO HELL or be in a place called ‘HEAVEN’. PLEASE READ, get hold of the BOOK called ‘BIBLE’ and turn to the Gospel of JOHN Chapter 15 verses 1 to 27. READ, MEDITATE and if you believe GOD ask Him yourself, challenge Him to reveal the truth and wisdom of understanding. Don’t ask me to give you the asnwer PLEASE!
I love all humans(mankind - males and females). BUT hated the unseen principalities of the evil forces at work in this beautiful and wonderful planet ‘EARTH’where it seek to destroy!!!!
I believe GOD and there is ONLY one GOD and NO other GOD. HE is real, alive and is interceding for all of us mankind whom He created in His own image. He loved us He is not religion BUT He sacrificed His one and ONLY begotten Son (JOHN Chapter 3 verses 16 to 21 also JOHN Chapter 14 verses 1, 6 and 7).
May God bless you and by His mercy and grace open up your hearts to HIM.
My prayers for all who read the message I have written above ….. Psalm Chapter 90 verse 12 reads:- ” So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom “.
Faruh Rehan said on 11 July 2007:
One funny thing I notice is that whenever our muslim brothers/sistes quote something from the bible, the first thing the christians will say is that “you don’t understand the doctrine”. The muslim’s interpretation is always wrong. So bro Jason, what does a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes mean? When the bible says “Jesus wept”, did Jesus really wept or what? When Jesus said ‘God, god why thou has forsaken me” did he mean why God has forsaken him or did he mean why the people of the world have forsaken God(this what a christian student explained to me), When Jesus said “I can my ownself do nothing”, does it mean Jesus is powerless or Almighty? When Jesus said “I come not to destroy the law of the prophets, I come not to destroy but to fulfill”. Is it wrong if I say that Jesus declared that he came to fullfill the law of the prophets (Moses, David, Abraham etc)? But then if I am right, why the teaching of christian deviates from “the law of the prophets”? This is foolish (Please note, it is not what you think it means)
Isaac Abdullah said on 13 July 2007:
I have accidentally stumbled into this site, and I am terribly disappointed at the behaviour of fellow faithful.
It is very sad to see these sorts of debates; as more often than not, there is hardly any theological dept in these conversations; no real genuine interest in understanding the other faith, but rather, a crass space that is rude, ignorant and un-scholarly.
As a theologian, I regret the sort of childish, divisive and un-godly sort of conversations seeking to provoke and sensationalize rather than creating deeper understanding and shared common humanity and belief in the Abrahamic tradition. Sad.
These are the same seeds that bear the fruits of hate, of war; something that is repulsive to the taste of many theologians, and something that is not taught by the sagas of Faith in general.
Please cease such mannerisms or do not participate in them, in Faith we are asked to preach peace and understanding, Faith (Imann) is suppose to open our eyes and our hearts, not narrowing it or for rude, vengeful purposes, they are not Just nor venerable. Rather, take time to pray, reflect on our own destructiveness, self-righteousness and ignorance.
The Almighty doesn’t need our defending. It is no wonder why people turn away from Faith based spirituality, as I read on a car-bumper sticker
“I have nothing against the Almighty, it is the fan club that I have a problem with”.
Peace be with you all.