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	<title>Comments on: Christian Origins and Islam in Malaysia</title>
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	<description>The purpose of this website is to facilitate Muslim responses to the various mendacious polemics and distortions of Islam by the Christian missionaries and their anti-Islamic allies that are being spread over the Internet.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wayfarer</title>
		<link>http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2008/christian-origins-and-islam-in-malaysia/#comment-32815</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayfarer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MENJ (or someone qualified), would u like to respond to http://vwfs68.blogspot.com/2008/04/is-bible-corrupted-or-is-it-quran-and.html? Or is http://islamic-awareness.org (more than) enough? Something concise &#38; hope that vwfs68 isn't put-off with. Jazakallah khaira - wassalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span name="KonaFilter">MENJ (or someone qualified), would u like to respond to <a href="http://vwfs68.blogspot.com/2008/04/is-bible-corrupted-or-is-it-quran-and.html?" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/vwfs68.blogspot.com');">http://vwfs68.blogspot.com/200.....-and.html?</a> Or is <a href="http://islamic-awareness.org" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/islamic-awareness.org');">http://islamic-awareness.org</a> (more than) enough? Something concise &amp; hope that vwfs68 isn&#8217;t put-off with. Jazakallah khaira - wassalam</span></p>
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		<title>By: Qasim</title>
		<link>http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2008/christian-origins-and-islam-in-malaysia/#comment-32638</link>
		<dc:creator>Qasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting talk. I don't agree with all of the arguments and statements

1. Paul as founder of Christianity. Paul was not the founder of Christianity, though it is true that the type of Christianity which he represented ultimately became predominant. Notice that in his epistles Paul cites traditions which were handed down from Christians prior to him. Paul did not invent the claim that Jesus (P) was raised from the dead, for example. Paul inherited certain beliefs concerning Jesus (P) from those who were Christians before him and Paul later added some of his own emphasis upon it. 

2. Gospel of Barnabas. There is no scholar worth the name who regards this gospel to be authentic. This is a mideval forgery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span name="KonaFilter">An interesting talk. I don&#8217;t agree with all of the arguments and statements</p>
<p>1. Paul as founder of Christianity. Paul was not the founder of Christianity, though it is true that the type of Christianity which he represented ultimately became predominant. Notice that in his epistles Paul cites traditions which were handed down from Christians prior to him. Paul did not invent the claim that Jesus (P) was raised from the dead, for example. Paul inherited certain beliefs concerning Jesus (P) from those who were Christians before him and Paul later added some of his own emphasis upon it. </p>
<p>2. Gospel of Barnabas. There is no scholar worth the name who regards this gospel to be authentic. This is a mideval forgery.</span></p>
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		<title>By: Taufiq</title>
		<link>http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2008/christian-origins-and-islam-in-malaysia/#comment-32613</link>
		<dc:creator>Taufiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

I suggest you to go back to your Christianity classes; even better seek for an Islamic class :-)

When I was an undergraduate, I took a Christianity class called "The Origin of Christianity and the New Testaments". In the class, there were quite a few Muslim student who took it as an elective. The Bible was one of our reference book used throughout the semester. My theological professor, who was a devoted and pious Christian, surprisingly made a remark in his introduction of the class that he admitted there were some chapters/verses in the Bible contradicting with each other, but he said just accepted them for the sake of the class.

It was a fun class as we treated it just like any other history classes. So we learned the origion of Christianity. Jesus (pbuh) was never the founder of what Christianity is today. It was Paul, who was a shrewd jew, invented Christianity because he wanted people to deviate from the actual teachings of Jesus (pbuh), because he found out Jesus (pbuh) teachings can never benefit him. It took him years to persuade people of his own to embrace his "Chistianity". His collections of letters, which he had written to Rome etc., later became what nowadays people acknowledge it as the New Testaments or the Bible (read: these were what we used as reference in our class).

The above just a summary. Do research and read dude before making any remarks (Read 3x). 

p/s: Your name is a very good name, like our prophet Adam (pbuh). I ask Allah to show you lights to embrace Islam, the way of life. Amin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span name="KonaFilter">Adam,</p>
<p>I suggest you to go back to your Christianity classes; even better seek for an Islamic class :-)</p>
<p>When I was an undergraduate, I took a Christianity class called &#8220;The Origin of Christianity and the New Testaments&#8221;. In the class, there were quite a few Muslim student who took it as an elective. The Bible was one of our reference book used throughout the semester. My theological professor, who was a devoted and pious Christian, surprisingly made a remark in his introduction of the class that he admitted there were some chapters/verses in the Bible contradicting with each other, but he said just accepted them for the sake of the class.</p>
<p>It was a fun class as we treated it just like any other history classes. So we learned the origion of Christianity. Jesus (pbuh) was never the founder of what Christianity is today. It was Paul, who was a shrewd jew, invented Christianity because he wanted people to deviate from the actual teachings of Jesus (pbuh), because he found out Jesus (pbuh) teachings can never benefit him. It took him years to persuade people of his own to embrace his &#8220;Chistianity&#8221;. His collections of letters, which he had written to Rome etc., later became what nowadays people acknowledge it as the New Testaments or the Bible (read: these were what we used as reference in our class).</p>
<p>The above just a summary. Do research and read dude before making any remarks (Read 3x). </p>
<p>p/s: Your name is a very good name, like our prophet Adam (pbuh). I ask Allah to show you lights to embrace Islam, the way of life. Amin.</span></p>
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		<title>By: indianman</title>
		<link>http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2008/christian-origins-and-islam-in-malaysia/#comment-32595</link>
		<dc:creator>indianman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YHWH is his own name

if yhwh is his own name, then why it sounds jewish and why it uses hebrew alphabet? if yhwh is supposed to be a universal god then why the obsession with israel? why yhwh incarnated in jew form for the jews? why kill innocent non-jews for the crimes of other non-jews? why allow jews to grow up and do WORSER crimes than non-jews in israel (read book of kings)? why this sadist plan to get his own "choosen ones" to get him nailed on a cross?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span name="KonaFilter">YHWH is his own name</p>
<p>if yhwh is his own name, then why it sounds jewish and why it uses hebrew alphabet? if yhwh is supposed to be a universal god then why the obsession with israel? why yhwh incarnated in jew form for the jews? why kill innocent non-jews for the crimes of other non-jews? why allow jews to grow up and do WORSER crimes than non-jews in israel (read book of kings)? why this sadist plan to get his own &#8220;choosen ones&#8221; to get him nailed on a cross?</span></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul is not the founder of Christianity. Jesus the resurrected Lord is!

Allah is the Arabic category name of God. YHWH is his own name. 

Study history before making claims.

"Islam is complete and perfect" Where is the support for such an assertion?

God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span name="KonaFilter">Paul is not the founder of Christianity. Jesus the resurrected Lord is!</p>
<p>Allah is the Arabic category name of God. YHWH is his own name. </p>
<p>Study history before making claims.</p>
<p>&#8220;Islam is complete and perfect&#8221; Where is the support for such an assertion?</p>
<p>God bless</span></p>
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